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From: McMorland, Gabriel
Date: Jul 30, 2013 3:02PM

My question is really, Is some other institution already doing a great job at vetting commercial software accessibility? I hope so, because it looks time consuming and a lot of the programs our students would use are widely used by lots of people.

I do take the point about the complexity of this issue, though. Debra has a good insight on reading VPATs.-----Original Message-----
From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jonathan Metz
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] comprehensive list of keyboard accessible software?

Ahhh. I misread the post. Sorry about that.







On 7/30/13 3:36 PM, "McMorland, Gabriel" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

>I'm looking for a way to efficiently identify whether software is
>keyboard accessible or not. Instead of learning keyboard shortcuts, I
>need to know what tasks cannot be performed with the keyboard at all.
>This is a cool website, though.
>
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>[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>Metz
>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:11 PM
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>As far as keyboard shortcut databases are concerned (I¹m not clear how
>this relates to evaluating VPATs), I¹ve found KeyXL
>(http://www.keyxl.com/) to be a fantastic resource for finding keyboard
>shortcuts to many programs. A lot of the software is old, but shortcuts
>don¹t generally change all that much.
>
>Jon
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>On 7/30/13 2:01 PM, " <EMAIL REMOVED> "
>< <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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>>When I am evaluating Voluntary Product Accessibilit Template, I look
>>more for how they are filled out then for the answers they gave.
>>
>>For example, I have evaluated products which just put "compliant" in
>>every single checkbox on the VPAT. Since I have yet to meet many
>>products which can be completely considered compliant, those answers
>>just tell me that they filled out the VPAT thoughtlessly, which leads
>>me to believe that they are presumably thoughtless about accessibility.
>>(Obviously I will combine that assessment with my own accessibility
>>analysis; so far I have a perfect score on "shallow VPAT that just
>>claims perfect compliance means barely accessible product."}
>>
>>On the other hand, if I see a VPAT which is filled out
>>comprehensively, with the product limitations so carefully detailed
>>they could effectively be a bug list, it makes me think that they
>>probably came from ... a bug list. That is to say, it makes me think
>>this is a company that notices accessibility problems, examines them,
>>reports them, and presumably intends to fix them.
>>
>>Deborah Kaplan
>>Accessibility Team Co-Lead
>>Dreamwidth Studios
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, McMorland, Gabriel wrote:
>>
>>> Good point. How effective do you find Voluntary Product
>>>Accessibility Templates?
>>> How effective do you find this site?
>>> http://buyaccessible.gov/
>>>
>>>
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:40 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] comprehensive list of keyboard accessible
>>>software?
>>>
>>> McMorland, Gabriel wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm lookng for a regularly updated comprehensive list of keyboard
>>>>accessible software. A regularly updated comprehensive list
>>>>detailing all aspects of accessibility for software would also be great.
>>>
>>> Such a list would be impractical -- if not impossible -- to create
>>>and maintain. There are an ever-growing number of software products,
>>>and each revision might improve or detract from their level of
>>>keyboard accessibility.
>>>
>>> However, perhaps you can focus the question further. Are you looking
>>>for a list of major office suite products (e.g. Microsoft Office,
>>>Libre Office, etc.) which are relatively good at keyboard accessibility?
>>>Social networking products? Graphic design products? Within a certain
>>>sphere, you might be able to find a better resource (with the
>>>understanding that it would likely be out of date as soon as it was
>>>created).
>>>
>>> Deborah Kaplan
>>> Accessibility Team Co-Lead
>>> Dreamwidth Studios
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