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From: Don Mauck
Date: Jan 24, 2014 8:04AM

I'm finding out that with a screen reader the sighted user is having issues with the cursor focus. It just seems to me that if we are really going to deal with disabilities, we need to deal with as many as we can. I just don't think it would be that difficult to have a small program that did what I proposed in my original message.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 7:01 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard navigation

Hello Srinivasu,
At least one browser (Opera) did permit heading navigation from the keyboard ... I suppose that is more robust now ... no personal experience there.
My responses are in the context of the thought in the first email.
And in that context I said that SRs do allow one to work with speech off.
Sure one can have a user agent that allows keyboard navigation in a manner that is as robust as SRs allow with no speech functionality at all.
Sailesh


On 1/24/14, <EMAIL REMOVED> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Sailesh,
> While I agree that's a solution, I'm unsure if a general keyboard only
> user would aware of this. In fact why would they even think of a screen reader?
> Since we are all in the accessibility industry, we could think of
> cross disability and aware of AT features across.
>
> Also, I'm not sure if screen reader vendors ever document with
> keywords of other disabilities.
>
> Further, all they would need is a quick navigation feature and why
> would they need to install a screen reader that require investment of more space.
>
>
> Can we think of a plugin that could just turn on quick navigation
> feature by pressing an access key?
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C
>
>> On 24-Jan-2014, at 16:33, Sailesh Panchang
>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Speech off has been built into SRs for the same reason for a long
>> time now.
>> For some aspects, if visual cursor tracking does not work as
>> intended, that's a bug to be fixed.
>> But overall it is the solution you were hoping for as per your first
>> email.
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Sailesh
>>
>>> On 1/23/14, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>> I understand that as screen reader myself, however, I'm not
>>> convinced that with speech off, the visual cursor would track
>>> correctly. I'll half to ask some of my visual friends.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:57 PM
>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard navigation
>>>
>>> Screen readers do have speech off mode that allow one to do this.
>>> The free NVDA screen reader can help such users.
>>> A decade ago IBM HPR also had this feature. JAWS too works with
>>> speech off.
>>> Sailesh
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 1/23/14, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>> Hi list -
>>>>
>>>> I've had an interesting idea proposed to me. With the many folks
>>>> that are not able to use a mouse, yet have no visual issues,
>>>> wouldn't it be a great help if they had some of the same quick key
>>>> navigation abilities such as jumping from headings, button, check
>>>> boxes, radio buttons etc. This would certainly save the users a
>>>> lot of tabbing and arrowing. Just imagine how much easier it would
>>>> be for a user to bring up a list of headings, buttons etc.
>>>>
>>>> As more folks get older and or have permanent wrist injuries, I
>>>> think this kind of keyboard navigation would be quite popular. It
>>>> seems like a screen reader company like FS or GW-micro would have a
>>>> whole new market to tap in to. Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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