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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Jun 3, 2014 5:02PM

Hello:
this is a very interesting topic to me. I met with a few people at CSUN
to talk about how we could improve this particular problem. Unfortunately
speech recognition currently does not interact with the source code in any
way and does not interpret rendered webpages.

Dragon NaturallySpeaking is the most commonly used speech recognition
package for both Mac and PC. However, Dragon does not recognize elements
on the web similar to screen readers. This case is an example of
sometimes the screen reader user has a better experience than the
non-screen reader user. If I am using J-say the bridging application
between jaws and Dragon I'm able to do much more on the web than a Dragon
only user. For example since JAWS recognizes elements that are coded to
be buttons using the aria role of button I can say click the button and
Dragon will do so. However Dragon does not recognize the aria role and
the element is not seen as a button to Dragon so saying click the button
will do nothing in the case of a dragon only user.

In the last release of Dragon Nuance included some support for accessing
Gmail but none of that was able to be used anywhere else on the web.

The group of us at CSUN did not have enough time to talk more than just
outlining the problem. We need to encourage Nuance to start incorporating
recognition for HTML 5 and aria in their product. It's very difficult for
a speech input user to work with any controls currently on the web without
appropriate labeling and we've begun the uphill climb for labeling for
screen readers I can't imagine how long it will be for speech input users.

Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Olaf Drümmer
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:42 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Does an accessible video player that works correctly
in all major browsers exist?

Hi Gary,

I would like to ask - maybe for the sake of a discussion... - : if a video
player is fully screen reader enabled - wouldn't that be sufficient for
speech based assistive technology to get its job done?

The screen reader's text to speech could read the labels of user interface
controls, speech commands could be used to actuate a user interface
control while it is the focus of the current selection.

Youtube can have a transcript for a video - a screen reader's text to
speech could read this out aloud.

The screen reader itself would obviously have to be speech driven.

Just thinking aloud...


Olaf


On 3 Jun 2014, at 23:04, "Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> Please don't forget that an accessible video or multimedia player should
(must/shall?) also be usable with speech recognition software, which for
example means that I need to be able to know what the code or spoken
command is for each of the player actions (e.g., Start, Stop,
Fast-Forward, Increase Or Decrease Volume, Repeat, etc.) the icons either
need to be labeled with the text or the needs to be a legend someplace
easy to find on the screen. Some of the user speech recognition software
is typically sighted , not using keyboard, and probably not using the
mouse either. Therefore it is impractical to assume that they can mouse
over an image or an icon in order to see what word appears underneath it
or at the bottom of the screen or in the command line. For example, if I
see it right handed arrow, what I say "click forward" or "click play". On
a YouTube video, I haven't a clue as to what to tell the player to Skip
Ad.
>
> The player also needs to incorporate Audio-Description - by allowing
selection of the AD versus the non-AD version, turn on the AD (if there is
'closed AD'),
>
> http://www.howto.gov/social-media/video/508-compliant-video-guide
>
> Has anyone tried the Workshop
http://www.theworkshop.co.uk/project/accessible-video-player?
>