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Re: Info widgets with role="dialog"

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From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Jan 21, 2015 2:28PM

There is also a difference between a popup and a modal. A modal requires your attention while a popup may not. Some sites use pop ups to alert you to chat but don't force your interaction I would support better ARIA semantics for these.

Jonathan

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 4:07 PM, _mallory < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> Maybe serious thought should be made to the idea of a "popup".
>
> Sighted users just know when they hit one and don't care if it's
> got forms, text, links, or an annoying animated gif of a cat.
>
> As far as they're concerned, a "popup" dialog is something that
> forces their attention and prevents them from interacting with the
> rest of the page until they close it.
>
> It would be nice if "dialog" meant this, instead of "dialog but only
> dialogs with forms in them". Not what web developers think when
> one says "dialog" at all. They think "that thing browsers pop up
> like javascript alerts or browser chrome stating something died".
>
> Can this be, like, back-pedaled and rethought so it can go back
> to something more practical? We merely want
> -users to be interupted from the page
> -forced to view with and deal with the popup
> -after closing, be exactly back where they were
>
> and not care what the content inside was.
>
> _mallory
>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 02:39:37PM -0500, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
>> Sorry Bryan, bad wording on my part there.
>> Yes, myself, Bryan and others are hard at work revising the ARIA
>> authoring guidelines, so comments such as those made here will surely
>> make their way into those discussions and that process, so people's
>> feedback and concerns are always welcome and duely noted.
>> Jared, I totally see what you are saying, generally putting focus on
>> an html element that has no interactive functionality is confusing and
>> can do more harm than good.
>> To some extent, we should be more aggressive about help teaching users
>> how to switch between modes in screen readers that offer that
>> functionality.
>> Also make sure that screen readers that operate this way actually
>> switch to browse mode when focus lands on an element with role
>> document, .. not always the case today.
>>
>> Cheers
>> -Birkir
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