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From: Jim Allan
Date: Feb 4, 2015 12:25PM

I think there was some confusion. I was trying to say when you open any
select box, the default (selected) option is set by the author. Ideally, it
should be the first (top) option that is "selected". Then the user can open
the select and use the down arrow (the expected behavior) to move through
the list of options.
<select>
<option value="volvo">Volvo</option>
<option value="saab">Saab</option>
<option value="vw">VW</option>
<option value="audi"
​*​*
*selected*>Audi</option>
</select>

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Krack, Joseph@DOR < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> But I don't think which select box is landed on first should be decided
> simply by the creator or just for screen reader users. Persons with low
> vision, physical (keyboard users) and/or cognitive disabilities need to
> be addressed also. I would say that the standards should decide which
> select box is to be highlighted first. Logical reading order and focus
> order should be kept in mind. If there is an option that you want to be
> first, then ensure it is listed first on the form/page.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jim Allan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 7:29 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] combo boxes
>
> The item you land on first in a select box is determined by the author
> of the page not the browser or the screen reader.
> I have seen select boxes where the last item is the first choice...when
> the user logically hits the down arrow...nothing happens. You had to hit
> up arrow to navigate that select list.
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Lynn Holdsworth
> < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> > I wish screenreaders would all speak the same role for select boxes.
> > JAWS annoyingly calls it a combo box, VoiceOver I think calls it a
> > popup list or a picker item or something ... They're all different.
> > And now with the advent of combobox widgets things are even more
> > confusing.
> >
> > Best, Lynn
> >
> > On 04/02/2015, Lynn Holdsworth < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > Surely it depends on whether it's appropriate to have an option
> > > already selected? For example, if I were filling in an insurance
> > > form and needed to choose the date I want the cover to start,
> > > wouldn't it be appropriate to set the three date select boxes to
> today's date?
> > >
> > > Best, Lynn
> > >
> > > On 03/02/2015, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
> > > < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > >> Thanks so much. I know when things don't seem right, but I don't
> > >> know
> > the
> > >> exact rule.
> > >>
> > >> Susie Stanzel
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > >> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Krack,
> > >> Joseph@DOR
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 1:58 PM
> > >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] combo boxes
> > >>
> > >> I would vote for the first one in order to meet the standards of
> > logical
> > >> reading order, and focus order.
> > >>
> > >> Joe Krack
> > >> Digital Accessibility Consultant
> > >> Disability Access Services
> > >> Department of Rehabilitation
> > >> 916-558-5766
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > >> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Stanzel,
> > Susan
> > >> -
> > >> FSA, Kansas City, MO
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:40 AM
> > >> To: WebAIM Discussion List ( <EMAIL REMOVED> )
> > >> Subject: [WebAIM] combo boxes
> > >>
> > >> Hi Listers,
> > >>
> > >> When I land on a combo box where should I expect to be? For
> > >> example, if
> > I
> > >> have a choice of 1, 2 or 3, should I expect my cursor to be on the
> > >> first choice or the last choice? I am thinking the first choice.
> > >>
> > >> Susie Stanzel
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964