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From: Graham Armfield
Date: Apr 16, 2015 2:31PM


Actually I've been testing with NVDA and Firefox just this week and NVDA
2014.4 does seem to be voicing content in the :before and :after
definitions.

This is a good thing, but also a bad thing in that you discover that many
icons from icon fonts are delivered to the page in those constructs. So you
can get some seemingly random characters being voiced. For instance S S S S
S meant that a product had a five star review.

Regards
Graham Armfield



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On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Moore,Michael (DARS) <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> It's a nice idea but screen reading software (JAWS) does not pick up
> content added through before and after. I just confirmed running JFW 16 on
> FF latest release and IE 9 (don't ask). I will repeat the tests with NVDA,
> Window Eyes, and VoiceOver later but I don't hold out much hope. I tested
> with and without the media designation.
>
> Mike Moore
> Accessibility Coordinator,
> Texas Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services
> (512) 424-4159 (Office)
> (512) 574-0091 (Cell)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Scott González
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:45 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard accessibility of abbreviations
>
> Regarding <ins> and <del>, I've seen this CSS recommendation before:
>
> @media braille, embossed, speech {
> del:before { content: "Deleted: "; }
> del:after { content: " (End of deletion.) "; } } del:hover {
> text-decoration: none; } ins { text-decoration: none; border-bottom: dashed
> green 2px; }
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Moore,Michael (DARS) <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > And while we are at it can we get more bug fixes reported to the
> > screen reader folks to recognize and indicate content inside of <ins>
> and </del>.
> > I have reported this for years to no effect.
> >
> > Mike Moore
> > Accessibility Coordinator,
> > Texas Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services
> > (512) 424-4159 (Office)
> > (512) 574-0091 (Cell)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> > Behalf Of Jim Allan
> > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:26 AM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Keyboard accessibility of abbreviations
> >
> > I would also file a bug on all of the browsers. keyboard access to
> > abbreviations and such should be a browser function. There should not
> > be a need for thousands of authors to code some stuff that should be a
> > function of the browser.
> > Jim
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:29 AM, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > > I'm currently trying to improve the keyboard accessibility of our
> > > website and recently decided to tackle abbreviations. According to
> > > the German accessibility regulations (and I'm sure there are
> > > equivalent success criteria in the WCAG) all functionality must be
> > > accessible by keyboard, and the expanded form of all abbreviations
> > > must be accessible
> > to all users.
> > >
> > > To achieve this, we set up this javascript solution:
> > > https://jsfiddle.net/saenas/un40y5ey/
> > >
> > > But while it should fulfill the SC, we're not sure how good it is
> > > from a usability viewpoint. Since we provide medical information,
> > > there are a lot of abbreviations on our website, and implementing
> > > this solution (or any like it, really) forces keyboard users to tab a
> lot more.
> > > Additionally, while it is supposed to only expand the first instance
> > > of each abbreviation per page, this mechanism doesn't work for the
> > > navigation and the sidebar - so an abbreviation that is present in
> > > each element would be expanded three times.
> > > For reference, here is a link to one of our pages that contains LOTS
> > > of
> > > abbreviations: http://www.dimdi.de/static/de/klassi/index.htm
> > >
> > > That's why I'd like to ask keyboard users here: what do you think of
> > > such a solution? Do you think it would improve your experience or
> > > make
> > it worse?
> > > Does anyone have suggestions for improvement?
> > >
> > > Thank you for your feedback!
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > [image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>;Jim Allan,
> > Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster Texas School for the Blind and
> > Visually Impaired
> > 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> > voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> > "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
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> > > > > >