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From: Paul J. Adam
Date: May 1, 2015 10:39AM

Hey Mike, JAWS was actually inserting the tabindex=-1 attribute/value into the DOM in IE, you have to us IE dev tools to see it. At least that was the case when I encountered this bug a year back or so.


Paul J. Adam
Accessibility Evangelist
www.deque.com <http://www.deque.com/>;
> On May 1, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Moore,Michael (DARS) < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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> JAWS does not change the code. There are options to filter duplicate links - thus is JAWS sees "Home" "Home" it will only announce the link once. You can also tell JAWS to skip repeated navigation - this will ignore a common nav bar at the top of the page. This one is a bit less reliable and some users will have a hard time finding search. All of this is totally under control of the user. There is a FLASH based screen reader detection script that I have seen used to trigger dynamic changes in the code - this is usually pretty dangerous and often causes more trouble than it solves especially since the detection does not work for all screen readers. A final option that I have seen (SharePoint and PeopleSoft) is a user selected flag that turns on "Accessibility" options. This also results in dynamic changes to the code. Best practice remains to make the code accessible from the beginning rather than bolt on accessibility later.
>
> Mike Moore
> Accessibility Coordinator,
> Texas Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services
> (512) 424-4159 (Office)
> (512) 574-0091 (Cell)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >] On Behalf Of Jonathan Avila
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS adds tabindex=-1
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> There is indeed a JAWS option for filter duplicate links that we recommend to turn off. I'm not sure specifically what it does to the page but this may it.
>
> I've also seen pages adapt their code such as add titles to form fields when the code detects a keyboard user and assumes a screen reader when tab is used for navigation.
>
>
> Jonathan
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Paul J. Adam < <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >> wrote:
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>> I've see JAWS do that on elements it considers "duplicate" like maybe an image link right above a text link or some other repeating link type problem. I've seen this cause additional accessibility problems rather than fix a problem of repetition.
>>
>> It only happened with IE though. I'm not aware of any other screen readers that manipulate the DOM like this?
>>
>>
>> Paul J. Adam
>> Accessibility Evangelist
>> www.deque.com <http://www.deque.com/>; <http://www.deque.com/ <http://www.deque.com/>;>
>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 2:46 PM, MEJ - Beth Sullivan < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> does anyone know why tabindex=-1 is added to links sometimes when
>>> JAWS is running?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Beth
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