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Re: Does WCAG require that when you click a label it checks the checkbox or radio button?

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Nov 19, 2015 3:08PM

I believe the closest W3C specs come to dictating functionality of
simulated controls is via the ARIA authoring Best Practices.
It is important to understand that these are not normative, but they
do suggest the expected keyboard operation pattern of custom interface
components, including buttons, radiobuttons and checkboxes.
I can suggest to the taskforce, which meets next Monday, whether
content can be added to simulated form controls explaining the
importance of enabling the click-the-label-to-focus functionality, and
we could implement this in our best practice widget examples (which a
lot of smart people are working hard on on Github).
It doesn't change WCAG or the different viewpoints expressed here, but
it could provide encouragement and demonstration on how things should
be done right, and that can at least help point people's brains in the
right direction.
-B



On 11/19/15, Patrick H. Lauke < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> On 19/11/2015 21:14, Julie Romanowski wrote:
>> We need to remember that assistive technologies include hardware as
>> well as software. We're not just talking about screen readers.
>>
>> There are employees with mobility challenges at our company who use
>> special types of ergonomic mice to access their computers. For
>> example, one person uses a foot mouse (also called a slipper mouse)
>> and another person uses a head mouse. Both of them have poor fine
>> motor control and it's very difficult to impossible for them to click
>> on small items such as radio buttons or check boxes. Coding the
>> controls and their respective labels correctly using the id and for
>> attributes provides a much larger area for these two people to click
>> on, making selecting the controls much easier.
>
> That is only one possible technique. Another would be to make the actual
> radio button or checkbox very big. So it's not a cut-and-dry "if the
> label isn't a proper <label>, and not assigned explicitly using
> for="..." attribute, it's a fail.
> But in both cases, I don't believe any WCAG 2.0 SC specifically deals
> with target/touch sizes (something that has since been brought up in the
> specific context of touchscreens in the mobile a11y TF, but I would have
> liked to see tackled more generally even on "desktop" for mouse users -
> see
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2015Jul/0037.html)
>
>> In the "Understanding Techniques for WCAG Success Criteria"
>> documentation under "Sufficient Techniques"
>> (http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/NOTE-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20150226/understanding-techniques.html#ut-understanding-techniques-sufficient-head)
>> it states that "If web content implements the sufficient techniques
>> for a given criterion correctly and it is accessibility-supported for
>> the content's users, it conforms to that success criterion". Maybe
>> I'm misunderstanding the WCAG 2.0 definition of accessibility support
>> (http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-accessibility-supported-definition-head),
>> but I take this to mean that using aria-labelledby to label radio
>> buttons will fail SC 4.1.2 Name, Role, Value, as it isn't "
>> accessibility-supported for the content's users" (the people using
>> ergonomic mice as AT).
>
> Why 4.1.2? "For all user interface components (including but not limited
> to: form elements, links and components generated by scripts), the name
> and role can be programmatically determined; states, properties, and
> values that can be set by the user can be programmatically set; and
> notification of changes to these items is available to user agents,
> including assistive technologies. (Level A)" ... nowhere here is there
> talk of "users must be able to operate controls with their specific
> input technology" or similar. This is about exposing name, role, state,
> value programmatically. Unless you're thinking of "allow themselves to
> be controlled by assistive technologies" in the intent for the SC
> http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/ensure-compat-rsv.html ...
> which, I'd say, is a bit of a stretch, IMO.
>
> P
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