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From: Chaals McCathie Nevile
Date: May 21, 2016 4:40AM

On Thu, 19 May 2016 17:08:20 -0000, Meacham, Steve - FSA, Kansas City, MO
< <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> In my organization, I consider date pickers to be a "progressive
> enhancement" and don't even assess them for accessibility, so long as
> the user has the option to use them or ignore them and still specify a
> date.

For precisely the reasons Jonathan suggested, such as knowing what day of
the week some date three months in the future will be, or more generally
being able to annotate dates with more information, I suggest that it is
very helpful to consider the accessibility of date pickers.

I also recognise that they are a very common thing that it is very
difficult to make very accessible.

And since I am offline, I can't look at the specific example for another
day or so, but I'd be interested to see.

I'm really hoping that Web Components will help us fix the problem that
input typeÚte failed to solve in HTML5. Figuring out what makes an
accessible date picker, and finding a *really* good one, gives us insight
into quite a lot of complex problems.

Challenges for the truly geeky - but which become really important when
talking about how to deal with dates.

1. I was at the world finals of ICPC, a programming competition, for the
last week. There was a big poster outside with a mascot-type figure, and
text that amounted, for me who doesn't read the local language's alphabet,
to

17-20 *something* 2559

What does it mean, and how is it relevant to the current discussion?

2. We have fairly reliable information - Shakespeare ;) - that Julius
Caesar was killed on the Ides of March, in 44 BC.

When was that exactly?

3. Why was the anniversary of the October Revolution celebreated in
November?

4. When does the month of Ramadan start and end this year?

cheers

Chaals

> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Avila
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 11:15 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Datepicker & NVDA Support
>
>> (Not sure why they exist). Just type MM/DD/YYY in the label.
>
> Date pickers are sometimes necessary because they can indicate dates
> that are unavailable/available/holiday and they provide additional
> information in tabular form such as the week a date falls on or for
> example whether a date is the first, two, third, etc. Thursday in the
> month.
>
> Jonathan
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 12:11 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Datepicker & NVDA Support
>
> Hello,
> NVDA users would be crazy if they used a date picker! (Not sure why they
> exist). Just type MM/DD/YYY in the label. But that date picker is fine
> on my end (although I would never use it because I have to go through
> every day in every year!) Thanks,
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Nisar A < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> Hello experts,
>>
>> I built up a datepicker using bits and pieces from other datepickers.
>> Is there a way I can verify if that datepicker is compliant with
>> USDOT-508 / meets the WCAG 2.1.1 guidelines?
>>
>> Here is the working example for reference:
>> https://jsfiddle.net/j49gz3g3/4/
>>
>> Some people in the testing team say that it is not compliant since
>> NVDA screen reader reads out the date along with the column/row
>> number. They claim it should read only the date and not extra
>> information.
>>
>> Is that true?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nisar
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