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From: Chagnon | PubCom
Date: Aug 19, 2016 4:46PM

Patrick L wrote: < Why wouldn't it? What SC do you think this would violate? >

Neither WCAG or PDF/UA mention this situation one way or the other. They reference only normal bulleted and numbered lists.

Since HTML coding doesn't specifically tag the actual bullet or number character, it's probably OK to not have a bullet or number character itself. The content will be understandable without them. Example:

In HTML
<UL>
<LI>
<LI>
</UL>

But with PDFs, there's only one <L> tag to apply to both ordered (numbered) or unordered (bulleted) lists. And PDF/UA standards (7.6) suggest subtags on the individual <LI> list items. Example:

<L>
<LI>
<Lbl> bullet or number character
<Lbody> item text
<LI> etc.

The <Lbl> tag surrounds the bullet or number character and annouces to the user the actual bullet or number.

So my original question, revised for clarify, is:
Is it compliant with WCAG and PDF/UA to not have visual (or announced) bullet or number characters in a list?

--Bevi Chagnon

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Lists without bullet or number characters

On 19/08/2016 22:53, Chagnon | PubCom wrote:
> Is it compliant with WCAG and/or PDF/UA to have lists without bullet
> characters or numbers?

Why wouldn't it? What SC do you think this would violate?

P

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> And if so, would they be tagged as:
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> For WCAG,
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> <ul>
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> <li>
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> <li>
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> </ul>
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> And for PDF/UA
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> <L>
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> <li>
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> <li>
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> (and without the <LBL> and <LBody> sub-tags?)
> --Bevi Chagnon

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