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From: Jim Homme
Date: Aug 24, 2016 4:30PM

Hi Patric,
You're right. Here is, once again, my personal answer. I haven't tried to poll other people who are blind. For websites, I usually do not navigate with touch exploration. I would do that most often if something is not working. One case in point recently was when I would try to check a box and somehow activated the buttons at the bottom of Safari. I had to manually scroll that part of the screen into the area where I could get at it with my finger, then put my finger on it, then touch the screen with another finger. In this case, double-tapping also did not work. I don't know of any good examination tools that would do nice things like inspect element that I can use with VoiceOver, so I didn't know what caused the issue.

Thanks.

Jim


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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 6:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Hidden text and mobile devices

On 24/08/2016 23:19, Jim Homme wrote:

> Reading by various things like headings would be for skimming, as you probably know. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence. Speaking only from my experience, when I first encounter a web page on my phone, I like to swipe through it all. Later, if I know what I'm looking for, I skip things. As a tester, I always use rightword swipes to go through a page so that I don't miss anything.

Thanks for not insulting my intelligence, but you seem to have managed not to answer my actual question, which was about "touch to explore".

P

> -----Original Message-----
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> On 24/08/2016 11:52, Jamous, JP wrote:
>> Do you have the mean to find out through JS what platform is loaded and modify your markup based on whether it is Windows or iOS?
>
> Reminder that "touch" isn't purely a mobile/tablet input mechanism.
> There are in fact many hybrid/two-in-one laptops with touchscreens, and even standalone touchscreens for desktop computers.
>
> Also, a reminder that you can't really detect touchscreens -
> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/detecting-touch-its-the-why-not-the-
> how/
>
> Related: is "explore by touch" really such a great concern? I always thought this was more of a navigation of last resort for blind/VI touchscreen users, when using swipe (with the different modes for also navigating directly to headings, landmarks, etc) wasn't working all that well.
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