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Re: Should disabled elements receive tab focus

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From: Mallory
Date: Oct 28, 2016 3:07AM


Disabled controls are not in the tab list. Someone suddenly breaking
that pattern in one
place would be extremely confusing. If I can focus on it, it should Do
Stuff for me. If you
let me focus on it, then it had better well Do Something when I click
it.

That some users choose to use tab for everything is not a good reason to
make breaking
changes. I know users who only use a mouse to click each form field; by
the above logic,
it would be a good thing to use auto-focus to save them some trouble.
And of course that
is a bad idea for many reasons.

Readonlys, on the other hand, while not editable, do live in the tab
list (because I can
still for example select and copy that text).

_mallory

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016, at 01:08 AM, Thomas Lee McKeithan II wrote:
> I differ. I believe that disabled buttons/controls should be in the tab
> order providing the user an accurate representation of what's presented
> on the page visually.
>
>
> Respectfully,
> Thomas Lee McKeithan II | Optum Technology Solutions
> Electronic Accessibility Engineer, UX Design Studio (UXDS)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:43 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Should disabled elements receive tab focus
>
> If the button is disabled then it should not be included in the tab ring.
> Screen reader users can find the button using standard reading controls.
> Just make sure that it is in the proper location in the reading order for
> the page.
>
> Mike Moore
> Accessibility Coordinator
> Texas Health and Human Services Commission Civil Rights Office
> (512) 438-3431 (Office)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Ajay Sharma
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:39 AM
> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> Subject: [WebAIM] Should disabled elements receive tab focus
>
> Hello and Greetings,
>
>
> Looking for some expert advice on the case where it is desired by the
> screen reader users that tab focus should go on disabled button and
> screen reader should announce it's name, role and state which is
> disabled. But doing so would affect the usability of keyboard only users
> as the tab focus would land on non interactive element.
> There are certain instances where the disabled control gets tab focus
> both in the case of web and desktop applications, but there is no spec or
> guideline that directly address to this issue.
>
> So, please share your thoughts on it and I'd greatly appreciate if there
> is some specs are already there.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ajay
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