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Re: Alt text in Word 2016: Indicate null image & which box to type in


From: L Snider
Date: Jan 19, 2017 8:42AM

Hi Mike and Jonathan,

Thanks so much! Great list Mike!



On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC) <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> The behavior that I get with Word 2013 and JAWS 17, admittedly a little
> out of date, is somewhat bizarre.
> My test document has three images. All images are placed in-line with the
> text
> 1. Picture with title and description
> 2. Picture with title only
> 3. Picture with description only
> 1. In edit mode reading by line nothing is announced for any of images
> JAWS just says blank.
> 2. In edit mode reading by word the title is announced if it is present.
> 3. In edit mode reading by character the title is announced if present. If
> only the description is present the description is read and the first word
> of the description is announced in the voice used for the title.
> 4. In edit mode reading using say all. Both the title and description are
> read and JAWS tells you which is the title and an which is the description
> unless only a description is present. In this case JAWS just reads the
> description. Also in this mode the title and description are read twice for
> each image and the size of the image is announced.
> 5. In quick keys mode reading by paragraph. JAWS will only announce the
> title and ignores the description. Thus if only a description is present
> JAWS will announce "blank" for the image.
> 6. In quick keys mode reading by graphic. JAWS will only announce the
> description and ignores the title. Thus if only a title is present JAWS
> will only tell you that a picture is present.
> JAWS Keys used for reference:
> In edit mode - moving forward through the document
> Reading by line use the down arrow
> Reading by word use control+left arrow
> Reading by character use left arrow
> Reading say all go to the top of the page control+home then insert+down
> arrow.
> To get to quick keys mode use insert+z
> Reading by paragraph use the p key
> Reading by graphic use the g key
> I am not sure what all of this means in terms of what to recommend a best
> practice for graphics is word documents. Just that life as a JAWS user can
> be interesting. If the document is to be converted to PDF or HTML for
> publication use the description field. This will save you from having to
> enter the alt text again. If you all collaborating on the document with a
> screen reader user (JAWS or other) I would ask them how they would prefer
> the graphics to be labelled.
> Mike Moore
> EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator
> Texas Health and Human Services Commission
> Civil Rights Office
> (512) 438-3431 (Office)
> Making electronic information and services accessible to people with
> disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Alt text in Word 2016: Indicate null image & which
> box to type in
> > Does that apply to both NVDA and JAWS? I remember a while back that some
> people were recommending putting the same thing into the title and
> description, because then it caught all screen readers. Do you think
> Description is enough to catch almost everyone today?
> JAWS and NVDA both use the description field as the alt text for images in
> MS Word. I can't speak to other word processing products and other screen
> readers as I have not tested those recently.
> Jonathan
> Jonathan Avila
> Chief Accessibility Officer
> SSB BART Group
> 703.637.8957 (Office)