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Re: Aria and inline character password validation


From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Jan 19, 2017 11:05AM

Ideally, the aria-live region would be polite except the change from
inadeuet to adequate (or vice versa).
Thus, the JavaScript that inserts the "100%" or "sufficient" notice of
password strength can first set aria-live attribute to "assertive"
from "polite".
Also if user then deletes a character, types a password that is too
long or therwise messes up the password, that indication should also
be assertive.
Honestly, screen readers do not handle the aria-live notifications
consistently, I have not found major ifferences between
aria-live="polite" and "assertive", but I hope that will change going

On 1/19/17, Pierre Hachey < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Thanks for the link Beranek
> Pete
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> Original Message
> From: Beranek, Nicholas
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:53 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Aria and inline character password validation
> I really like how they do it on the following deque university page:
> https://dequeuniversity.com/library/aria/counters/sf-characters-remaining
> It's overkill, yes, but there are some good lessons to learn from it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf
> Of Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:33 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Aria and inline character password validation
> Honestly I would like to see some user testing data on assertive vs. polite
> on this one. If assertive causes you to get interrupted multiple times while
> typing the password that you chose would be really annoying in my opinion.
> It may even result in mistyping the chosen password. I think that most users
> know what they are going to type into the password field before they start
> and if it does not meet the minimum strength requirements they have to come
> up with a totally different one.
> Of course best practice is to tell someone up front what the password rules
> are so that they can create one that meets the rules from the start.
> Mike Moore
> EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator Texas
> Health and Human Services Commission Civil Rights Office
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf
> Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:27 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Aria and inline character password validation
> I would use aria-live="assertive" and only update it when the password
> strength changes I would also connect it with the input field.
> <label for="pw"> Password</label>
> <input type="password" id="pw" aria-describedby="strength"> <span
> aria-live="assertive" id="strength">weak</span> The JavaScript would update
> the contetnts of this span to something relevant such as "stronger" or at
> least 'sufficient" when done.
> Of you can say "0% strong" then "x% strong".
> If you have a more complex implementation, such as you specify whihch
> conditions have been met you can use the same construct, you just have to be
> more careful with the wording and updates.
> On 1/19/17, Jonathan Cohn < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> I would try a polite live region and see how that works. Generally
>> screen readers do say something for every character typed. If you find
>> the live region too noisy, then a JS solution that waits for no input
>> for half a second and then updates the live region would help.
>> Best wishes,
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Pierre Hachey
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi WebAIM list,
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>> Context:
>>> The input field for password has a real time character validation
>>> that shows the users via a dynamic tooltip, the strength of the
>>> password due to using symbols, lower and upper characters.
>>> ‎Question:
>>> ‎As the user types a line on tooltip vertically increases to show
>>> strength of password (percentage change -week to strong), since this
>>> line keeps changing as the user types, what kind of "aria" should I add?
>>> Would it be aria-live‎? Do I need javascript?
>>> Thanks
>>> Pete
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>>> >>> >>> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>>> >>
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