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From: chaals@yandex-team.ru
Date: Feb 6, 2017 1:27PM

I work for a company that does a lot of stuff like machine learning, to help people solve concrete problems...

06.02.2017, 18:47, "JP Jamous" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >:
> Although I am not opposed to AI, I do second Sarah. AI still has a long way to go despite the major progress it has accomplished.

Yep.

> I think that even at its peak AI will never be smarter than the human mind. It can assist humans just like operating systems and database systems do. However, the bottom line remains can AI analyze without previous knowledge what is occurring? In other words, can it predict or hypothesize like a human mind can?

In some circumstances, it can produce the same results. Which is the Turing test - if you can't tell how it happened, but you can't tell the difference in the outcome, then it works. It's just a more complicated version of something like a taste test. In some cases, AI can do the job. In others, it gets it horribly wrong.

For the near future, I wouldn't consider it a reliable tool - "mostly better than nothing" is probably a better assessment. And to a certain extent that is by relying on the intelligence of the person being given the information, which after all is part of what communication is about.

It's getting better. Apparently fast now, if you discount the decades already invested. And if you have access to someone's very powerful systems... but it's something that can help, rather than a clear solution, at least for now.

cheers

Chaals

> Notice that on Facebook, it states "Possible or possibly." If I ask my sighted wife, she can immediately tell me oh, "this is a picture of a male with black hair, brown eyes, bla, bla, bla"
>
> So having that definite and not possible description is critical to a sightless user.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT)
> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] software for alt text?
>
> Karthik,
>
> If there is any software out there that says it does this, I wouldn't trust it. The computing power and artificial intelligence Facebook uses is not something that would fit in most development environments - and even then, it's not perfect.
>
> Alternative text is content, and in almost every case, should be provided by the person who wrote the rest of the text on the page. It's picked up by search engines, and is used whenever pictures can't be or aren't being displayed, so the audience is likely to wider than some might think. It has to be treated with the same care as the text in your headings, links, etc.
>
> Right now, only a human can do a good job of authoring alternative text.
>
> sb
> Sarah E. Bourne
> Director of IT Accessibility, MassIT
> Commonwealth of Massachusetts
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of karthik k
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 3:53 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] software for alt text?
>
> Hi Rakesh,
> the article was really helpful. is there any such software by any company? Is deque working on this?
>
> On 2/6/17, Rakesh P < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>  I have done some study on the use of artificial intelligence for
>>  providing automatic alternate text for images by facebook. The article is here.
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>>  Hope this helps.
>>
>>  On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:39 AM, karthik k < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>  --
>>>  Thanking you,
>>>  regards
>>>  Karthik K.
>>>  Phone no 9060989650
>>>
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>>  is there any software to provide alt text?
>>>  I came to know that there is some software which can provide alt text
>>>  and one such software is used in facebook. can you give me some
>>>  suggestion regarding the same?
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> --
> Thanking you,
> regards
> Karthik K.
> Phone no 9060989650
> > > >
> > > > -- 
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