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Re: Inappropriate navigation of buttons


From: Vemaarapu Venkatesh
Date: Feb 24, 2017 3:50AM

Exactly JP, here with tab unable to navigate all buttons instead only up/
down arrow keys once after tabbing to side bar. We reported the same that
buttons should be navigable with tab key. Standards apart, the design is
not really destroying the user experience because user is notified that
sidebar as listbox and listening to that user surely use up/ down arrow
keys to navigate and no matter what kind of elements are there in it if I
am not wrong. As there is no immense impact on users, client is not so keen
to modify the design or to develop according to the standards which is

Yes when it comes to web app the modes are working fine with firefox or
chrome. This is the desktop app which we are working with JAWS now.
Interestingly when I tab through the same app using NVDA it only announces
"Unknown". With these two sr's app is not at all accessible in their
default modes and didn't check with other sr's.


On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Vemaarapu Venkatesh <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Hi all, Greetings!
> 1. I have a group chat desktop application where there is a main
> navigation side bar containing Activities, chats, contacts, settings etc as
> core items. These items are buttons by design and the navigation is
> possible with up/down arrow keys in sidebar once after focusing into side
> bar using tab key. JAWS announces location for every button in side bar
> while navigating through them. But I think it is deviating from the actual
> standard that buttons should be navigable with tab key as they are
> interactive elements. Though they are navigable with up/ down arrow keys
> instead of tab key user is able to make out that there are few more buttons
> in the sidebar listening to location "1of 7, 2 of 7 etc". Listening to
> button role user always expect that they should be in tab order so I
> suggested that side bar items should be navigable with tab key or change
> the role to tab from button where tabs can be navigable with up/ down arrow
> keys. Is it suggestable?
> 2. The app is completely accessible when user turns off virtual pc cursor
> manually using Insert+Z which is not the actual way to access the
> application. In default mode JAWS is not reading the elements in the app
> while tabbing though they are focused. What might be the reason for this?
> When we reported this client came up with the solution that they will add
> a note in the help documentation of the app saying that "turn off virtual
> cursor to use the app in accessible mode" something like that. But I think
> this is not the apt solution. Is it recommendable?
> Looking for your valuable comments on this and thank you for all the
> expertise you people are sharing.
> Thanks,
> Venkatesh