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Re: "Naming Generic Landmarks" errors reported by Siteimprove extension

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From: Steve Faulkner
Date: Mar 3, 2018 7:30AM

Also note that using the title attribute will result in a tooltip being
displayed whenever the users has their mouse pointer of content with the
section, which can be annoying to say the least. Use of aria-label on the
section is therefore preferred.

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SteveF
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On 3 March 2018 at 14:09, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> No, you got it exactly right.
> The <section> element only maps to a landmark if it has an accessible name.
> If you used one without any source of accessible name, it shouldn't be
> treated as a landmark and flagged as an accessibility error.
> If you provide a source of accessible name (and the title attribute is
> a valid one) it is a named landmark, so it should not be reported as a
> violation.
>
> I've reported this bug to them, (well, not directly but through a
> friend who is a website admin who uses SiteImprove).
>
>
> The only thing to note here is that even when the title attribute is a
> source of accessible name for landmarks its support by user agents may
> not be as strong as for the aria-label or aria-labelledby attributes.
> I haven't tested this, but it is a matter of user agent support, it's
> still a valid code construct.
>
>
> On 3/3/18, Jonathan Robert Pool < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > As part of my a11y R&D, I am developing an application to produce
> accessible
> > résumés (jsonresume-theme-a11y).
> >
> > To monitor its progress in achieving accessibility, I have compared it
> > against some competitors with 6 freely available tools.
> >
> > The only tool that finds errors in what my application produces is
> > Siteimprove. Almost all the errors it finds are violations of Guideline
> > 1.3.1. Siteimprove says in each case that I must "Use either the WAI-ARIA
> > attribute 'aria-label' or 'aria-labelledby' to name the landmark".
> >
> > These landmarks are HTML section elements. Each of them has a title
> > attribute whose value describes the nature of the section.
> >
> > The Siteimprove diagnosis seems to say that the title attributes are not
> > enough. But WAI-ARIA 1.1 says in its section on the aria-label property,
> > "Most host languages provide an attribute that could be used to name the
> > element (e.g., the title attribute in HTML), yet this could present a
> > browser tooltip. In the cases where a visible label or visible tooltip is
> > undesirable, authors MAY set the accessible name of the element using
> > aria-label." To me that means a title is sufficient, and no additional
> label
> > is necessary. When I test the page with VoiceOver, it reads each
> section's
> > title right after "Section". Am I misunderstanding something, or is this
> > particular diagnosis asking for more than WAI-ARIA requires?
> > > > > > > > > >
>
>
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