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Re: Confirmation of actions - violation or feature?

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From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Jul 19, 2018 3:45PM

> Any how, I am curious to know ways to handle aria live announcements upon page reloads. I tried it using window.onload, but it appears more like a temp hack.

You should not expect aria-live to work or be triggered on page load. This is not how it was designed to work. In theory you could put some sort of timed changes together to trigger after the document is loaded but this would not be advisable or reliable.

Jonathan


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From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Ajay Sharma
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Confirmation of actions - violation or feature?

That also sounds good.

Though, I was looking into feasibility for aria live announcement it appears id does not work upon page refresh. So, This alternative seems more robust.
Any how, I am curious to know ways to handle aria live announcements upon page reloads. I tried it using window.onload, but it appears more like a temp hack.

Best Regards,
Ajay

On 7/19/18, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Another approach would be to move focus to the heading for the search
> results when the button is activated, rather than constructing a
> status message.
> Screen reader users can easily miss live region announcements and it
> is also better for a keyboard only user.
>
>
> On 7/19/18, Ajay Sharma < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Thanks Jonathan and Rakesh, that pretty much helped us in right
>> direction, further I'll take the point that it is more useful if sr
>> would say the count of filtered items rather than just announcing
>> filter applied.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ajay
>>
>> On 7/18/18, Jonathan Cohn < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>> I would also suggest that just "filter applied" is minimally useful
>>> as a status. I would prefer if an approximation of the size of the
>>> filtered results can be quite helpful.
>>>
>>> On 18 July 2018 at 10:41, Maxability A11Y
>>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ajay,
>>>>
>>>> In many cases the content that is modified because of filters is
>>>> after the filter components and the user will navigate forward to
>>>> read the filtered content. The announcement of the alert that says
>>>> filters applied is a best practice as far as my knowledge is
>>>> concerned. Anything that gets updated before the initiating element
>>>> in the content sequence can be considered violation. Since this is
>>>> a content change for the sequence I hope it is a
>>>> 1.3.2 Meaningful Sequence success criteria.
>>>>
>>>> As you said that the page is refreshed, consider checking the focus
>>>> of the screen reader after hitting the filter button. Chances that
>>>> the screen reader focus may jump to an arbitrary region on the page
>>>> which may cause in
>>>> 2.4.3 Focus order failure.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Mohith BP < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there any clue for the non-screen reader users such as any
>>>> > change of color, shape such as arrow up / down etc.?
>>>> > then 1.1.1, 1.3.3 and / or 1.4.1.
>>>> >
>>>> > Are there other mechanisms such as remove filter which indirectly
>>>> > notifies the users that the filter has been applied?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks & Regards,
>>>> > Mohith B. P.
>>>> >
>>>> > On 7/18/18, Ajay Sharma < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>> > > Hey All,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Need your thoughts on this situation, would you consider it as
>>>> > > accessibility violation or a usability feature?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Expected - Screen reader should confirm"Filters Applied" after
>>>> > > user hits "Apply" button after selecting the filters from the
>>>> > > filters dropdown.
>>>> > > Actual - Page refreshes when "Apply" button is clicked and
>>>> > > screen reader doesn't say anything.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Although there is SC 4.1.3 Status Messages in WCAG 2.1 for it
>>>> > > but we do not follow it till now, the closest SC seems to be
>>>> > > 1.23.1 Info and Relationship.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thoughts?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Best Regards,
>>>> > > Ajay
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