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From: Mohith BP
Date: Oct 16, 2018 4:50AM


HI JP,

I too suggest aria-describedby. aria-describedby text is read while
users use quick navigation in JAWS also.


Thanks & Regards,
Mohith B. P.

On 10/15/18, Isabel Holdsworth < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> If you were to move the message to before the Submit button in the
> DOM, but use CSS to position it to wherever the designer wants it to
> be, then use aria-describedby to link the two together, then if you're
> using the screenreader's cursor you'll encounter the message before
> the button and it won't be spoken twice because aria-describedby is
> only spoken on focus. Then everybody is happy.
>
> On 13/10/2018, Jonathan C. Cohn < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> This sounds like a JAWS bugged to me. With IE JAWS had to do most of the
>> work while in Firefox, the browser is deciding what to display.
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2018, at 1:54 PM, JP Jamous < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I will give it a try. Thank you Birkir.
>>>
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>>> Birkir R. Gunnarsson
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 12:35 PM
>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Hiding text, but still use it for
>>>
>>> How about instead of aria-labelledby use aria-describedby
>>>
>>> aria-describedby is anounced by screen readers when users focus a button
>>> with the tab key but generally not when they down arrow in browse mode.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10/12/18, JP Jamous < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>> I did use aria-hidden="true" Jared, but JAWS 2018 in IE11 broke that.
>>>> Once I landed on the button, it stated "Submit button". Yet, in
>>>> Firefox using JAWS and NVDA, they both honored it. That was why I was
>>>> wondering if there is a different way of handling it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> JP Jamous
>>>> Senior Digital Accessibility Engineer
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>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>>>> Jared Smith
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:02 AM
>>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Hiding text, but still use it for
>>>>
>>>> JP Jamous wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How can I prevent both JAWS and NVDA from speaking the alert message
>>>>> as the user is down-arrowing?
>>>>
>>>> If it is visible in the page, you could give it aria-hidden="true".
>>>>
>>>> If it is visibly hidden, then give it display:none with CSS (rather
>>>> than off-screen or clip or something else).
>>>>
>>>> In both of these cases the screen reader should still read the message
>>>> in conjunction with the button, but should not read it when
>>>> encountered within the page (whether visible or not).
>>>>
>>>> Jared
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