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From: Isabel Holdsworth
Date: Feb 28, 2019 4:27AM

Thanks Steve. I read somewhere on the W3C website that cancelling a
pointer gesture shouldn't require a keyboard as some people using
alternative input devices might not be able to use one. I should have
kept a note of where :-(

On 28/02/2019, Steve Green < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> I can't see anything that says that cancellation must be possible using only
> the pointer, although I agree that would be ideal. The Understanding page
> says that moving the pointer away from the target before releasing is one
> way to achieve cancellation, but it does not say it is the only way.
>
> It also says that cancellation can be achieved by returning the selected
> item to its original location. While that may be possible for sliders that
> have a relatively small number of values, it is not a realistic option for
> sliders that are infinitely variable, such as the timeline on a video.
>
> This is another example of a WCAG 2.1 success criterion that would benefit
> from additional explanation and examples, so I hope the authors will address
> this.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> Isabel Holdsworth
> Sent: 28 February 2019 10:18
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Sliders and MouseDown
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Pressing ESC may not be an option for some pointer users, and I don't think
> would be accepted as a sufficient technique for 2.5.2, which seems to
> stipulate that it must be possible to cancel a DOWN event using only the
> pointer.
>
> I wish I knew whether or not this behaviour applies to sliders.
>
> Cheers, Isabel
>
> On 27/02/2019, Steve Green < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> That's a really good point. My (possibly incorrect) understanding is
>> that your analysis is correct, and that there should be a way to
>> cancel and return to the original slider position. However, I have not
>> been able to find any example of a slider that has such a behaviour.
>>
>> I would not have thought that it would be too difficult to use the
>> Escape key to do this, but I am not a developer so nothing looks
>> difficult from my perspective.
>>
>> Steve Green
>> Managing Director
>> Test Partners Ltd
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>> Isabel Holdsworth
>> Sent: 27 February 2019 15:15
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Sliders and MouseDown
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Any thoughts on whether WCAG 2.1 guideline 2.5.2 might apply to sliders?
>>
>> For normal drag-and-drop components, if a user starts dragging an
>> element then changes their mind, dragging it somewhere outside the
>> permitted drop zones causes the element to be plonked back where it
>> started.
>>
>> Should the same behaviour apply when a user begins dragging a slider
>> thumb, say, on the volume control or play-head of a media player? If
>> they begin dragging the play-head then have a change of heart and move
>> the pointer outside the slider, should the play-head jump back to
>> where it started? And if it doesn't, would this fail 2.5.2?
>>
>> Lots of stuff to grapple with in my first 2.1 audit :-)
>>
>> Thanks as always for your thoughts.
>>
>> Cheers, Isabel
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