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From: Karlen Communications
Date: Jul 11, 2019 10:07AM

First, JAWS won't announce or list custom Headings. We've been complaining
about this lack of support since 2003. Even if you base a Heading 1A or in
your case a Heading 3 No Top line based on a Heading 3, JAWS won't see it as
a Heading. It will appear in the TOC and in the Navigation Pane...anywhere
else but when you are going through the document either reading using JAWS
or trying to get a list of Headings.

I just checked with JAWS and I can use JawsKey + F to get the font
information and it tells me that Heading 1A is outline level 1. I renamed
Heading 1A to Orange Text and using the same keyboard command I get the name
of the Style and the outline level. However, as I'm reading the document,
there is no indication from JAWS that I am on a Heading despite the text
being in the Navigation Pane at its correct placement and despite being able
to use References, Table of Contents to generate an accurate Table of
Contents.

Again, we've been asking for this support since 2003. Looks like NVDA does
not support custom Headings either.

It should convert to H3 when the document is converted to tagged PDF if the
custom Heading is based on an existing Heading. Heading 3 No Top Line is a
custom Heading. I've not ever seen it in the list of Styles for Word..

Cheers, Karen


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Homme
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Subject: [WebAIM] Word & PDF Style Question About Headings

==========Hi,
I would love to be able to predict what will happen when working with this,
to relieve stress. I'm glad I checked before I told someone to do a bunch of
work they ended up not having to do. I almost told someone to change a lot
of items in Word, but we noticed that they looked good to NVDA, when we
created the PDF. Here is what happened.


* In Word, there is a style whose name is "Heading 3 no top line." As of
this writing, I'm unsure if this is a built-in style, or if someone here
created it. I had NVDA set to report style names and headings, because I
wanted to catch paragraphs that looked to me like normal paragraphs that
should be turned into built-in heading styles. When I also turned on the
NVDA feature that reports headings, I noticed that for the styles I normally
see in Word whose names are "Heading 1," "Heading 2," "Heading 3," and so
forth, NVDA reported the style names and the heading and level. For example,
it said "Style Heading3 heading 3."
For the style in question, NVDA said "Heading 3 no top line," which seemed
to indicate that NVDA did not realize that this style was meant to be a
heading level 3. I then checked the properties for the paragraph after I
located one of these items. I noticed that the outline level was 3. I also
noticed that the style in question is based on the built-in Heading 3 style.
This seems to indicate that NVDA reports heading level based on style names,
rather than outline level.

Now, finally, the question. Cjould this be an NVDA bug, or exactly what am I
looking at here?

Thanks.

Jim


Jim Homme
Digital Accessibility
Bender Consulting Services
412-787-8567
https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-
solutions

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