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Re: WCAG 2.1 2.5.3 Label in name

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From: Peter Krautzberger
Date: Oct 1, 2019 9:07AM

Bryan Garaventa's implementation at [1] is also very useful to quickly test
some markup.

Peter.

[1]
https://whatsock.github.io/w3c-alternative-text-computation/Editable%20Live%20Input%20AccName%20Test.html

Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 17:02 Uhr schrieb Steve Green <
<EMAIL REMOVED> >:

> It's pretty well described at
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/label-in-name.html#accessible-name-and-description-computation-specification
>
> The first thing is to work out what the accessible name is. If your code
> is something like "Learn more <span class="hidden">about sausages</span>",
> the accessible name will be "Learn more about sausages".
>
> It must be possible to obtain the visible label by removing zero or more
> characters from the start and end of the accessible name. So "more about
> sausages" would be fine, as would "more", but "more sausages" or "pork
> sausages" would not.
>
> Steve
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WCAG 2.1 2.5.3 Label in name
>
> Thanks Steve- could you cite an example of "exact substring of the
> accessible name as computed by the accessible name computation algorithm"?
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Green
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 10:16 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WCAG 2.1 2.5.3 Label in name
>
> You can still use that technique as long as the visible label is an exact
> substring of the accessible name as computed by the accessible name
> computation algorithm.
>
> Steve Green
> Managing Director
> Test Partners Ltd
>
>
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> Subject: [WebAIM] WCAG 2.1 2.5.3 Label in name
>
> Hello-
>
> Our organization has used hidden text to expand links that need more
> context than what is displayed visually.
>
> For example, where multiple ???learn more??? links appear on a page we
> will expand them- the visual is ???learn more??? but we make them unique
> and meaningful by adding ???about (subject)??? with hidden text. Or if an
> image button is used the ALT text is expanded ???ALT=???learn more about
> (subject)???
>
> Under WCAG 2.1 2.5.3 ???Label in Name??? is this technique no longer
> acceptable? Due to the need to identify links with voice dictation, must
> the full link text now appear visually? The extra space needed to expand
> all links visually is a design constraint that we would like to avoid if
> possible.
>
> thanks
>
> Jon
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