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From: Don Mauck
Date: Jul 23, 2020 3:21PM
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My point was that they chose to use an ARIA-Grid. I'm very much aware of ARIA and what it is for. That was a choice the developer made not mine.
Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)
From: glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Using ARIA grids
I'm a little confused by this statement: "developers...using ARIA Grid controls since apparently tables do not allow for automatic scrolling".
Using an ARIA attribute should have no effect on the behavior of an element. ARIA attributes are hints to assistive technology. See https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.w3.org/TR/aria-in-html/*nativesemantics__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!JyRXeOkkEI9ydr2OY7TZhxMFR1WxFFs73HlXjIQ6Bdl7l4TRcMO3qLM1dC36LKs$ which says, "Adding an ARIA role will not make an element look or act differently for people not using assistive technology. It does not change the behaviours, states and properties of the host element but only the native role semantics."
That statement is talking about the role attribute specifically, but can be applied to aria-* attributes too.
So when you say having an aria grid allows automatic scrolling but native tables do not, I don't follow why that's true.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:49 PM Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> We have developers who for reasons such as continuous scrolling from
> the bottom using ARIA Grid controls since apparently tables do not
> allow for automatic scrolling. So, are there ways to use grids using
> table commands in the same way?
> Currently Grids don't even show up as any of the JAWS form elements
> and you can only use cursor keys within the Grid. This really limits
> the JAWS user from having any kind of pleasant experience with these
> grids. Are there ways to make these grids more usable to a screen
> reader? Especially since ARIA-Grid is out there and has several table
> attributes. Thank in advance for reading and maybe giving this some thought.
> Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program
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