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Re: WebAIM Discussion List Digest 30.06.2004.


From: paul.creedy
Date: Jun 30, 2004 5:49PM

Thanks Chris
You have some good points there that I need to address.  Some of them are due to this site being very new and they are on the to do list.  Some points I didn't think about and I'll take a look at them.
It's my first XHTML and CSS site so I'm expecting some hiccups.
Many thanks
WebAIM Discussion List Digest 30.06.2004.------------------------------------------------------------------------From: <EMAIL REMOVED> ject: Re: WebAIM Discussion List Digest 25.06.2004.Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:07:12 -0600Here is an example otf a website that supports enabling anddisabling acceskeys.http://ncpad.rehab.uiuc.eduJon---- Original message ----&amp;gt;Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:35:55 +0100&amp;gt;From: &quot;chris.price&quot; &amp;gt;Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WebAIM Discussion List Digest 25.06.2004. &amp;gt;To: &quot;WebAIM Discussion List&quot; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Paul&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Providing access keys is not a straightforward accessibilityissue.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;For one, there is some debate as to whether they are usefulor not.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Not all browsers support
them and the use of letters can beproblematic.&amp;gt;Also, in your guide to access keys your instruction is topress alt+ whereas&amp;gt;on the Mac you press control+.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Is the link in the top left a permanent fixture? If so, its abit too&amp;gt;prominent. After all, your site is about a community not webaccessibility.&amp;gt;Likewise, the heading Navigation makes the page a littlemechanic. Why are&amp;gt;NEWS and EVENTS navigation when HOME and LEISURE aren't.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Talking of headings, you haven't got any on the home page.That's an&amp;gt;important accessibility issue as it gives the page structure.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;The titles on your 2 topic links are wasting my time tellingme something&amp;gt;that's totally obvious. If you want to tell your visitorthey're links you&amp;gt;could just underline them.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;As well as accessibility, have you considered usabilityissues such as: when&amp;gt;your in Leisure, the LEISURE
button's behaviour changes. OnceI'm in&amp;gt;Leisure, there are no clues as to where I am.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Jakob Neilsen's alertbox is excellent for tips on usability.&amp;gt;I found &amp;gt;http://e-government.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/Resources/WebHandbookIndex1Article/&;amp;gt;fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4000092&amp;amp;chk=XHiT3L worth looking at re:access keys and&amp;gt;accessibility in general.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;If you're serious about XHTML you might want to try buildingto XHTML strict&amp;gt;if only because it makes you disciplined in your coding.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Good look with the site, its got a good feel about it.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;--&amp;gt;Chris Price&amp;gt;Choctaw Media Ltd&amp;gt;Choctaw.co.uk &amp;gt;&amp;gt;On 28/6/04 11:35 pm, &quot;paul.creedy&quot;wrote:&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I've just started my first attempt at CSS layout withXHTML. I've also tried&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to add accesskeys to the common menu items.&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; It was hard going at
first and XHTML gave me loads oferrors which I think&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I've now identified. Next I want to improve accessibility.&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'd welcome any suggestions on improving it's accessibility.&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; The site is here at the moment:http://d476047.r39.rcthosting.com/&;amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Paul Creedy&amp;gt;&amp;gt;----&amp;gt;To subscribe or unsubscribe, visithttp://www.webaim.org/discussion/&;amp;gt;Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATPCoordinator of Assistive Communication and Information TechnologyDivision of Rehabilitation - Education ServicesMC-574College of Applied Life StudiesUniversity of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820Voice: (217) 244-5870Fax: (217) 333-0248E-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED> : http://cita.rehab.uiuc.edu/WWW:
http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund------------------------------------------------------------------------From: <EMAIL REMOVED> ject: Thank youDate: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:21:19 -0600I just wanted to thank John Hamman and Larry Hull for participating this weekend at the ColdFusion User's Network conference.&amp;nbsp; We were able to persuade the conference organizers to add an accessibility track to the conference and from what I can gather it was a huge hit!&amp;nbsp; Over 570 people attended from all over the United States as well as some international attendance.&amp;nbsp; Having the track there, really began to push accessibility to this community.&amp;nbsp;All the talks there on Accessibility really were great (I attended all the ones I didn't give myself) and I hope that we can work on tacking accessibility tracks at other conferences throughout the country. This is a great way to&amp;nbsp;bring
accessibility into the forefront to the very people who need to be aware of it (the developers and designers).&amp;nbsp;Thank you again John and Larry.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully we will repeat the track next year and I will be asking for speakers again.&amp;nbsp;Sandy Clark------------------------------------------------------------------------From: <EMAIL REMOVED> ect: Re: WebAIM Discussion List Digest 25.06.2004.Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:04:34 -0600On 29/6/04 3:03 pm, &quot;jongund 25.06.2004.&quot; wrote:&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Here is an example otf a website that supports enabling and&amp;gt; disabling acceskeys.&amp;gt; &amp;gt; http://ncpad.rehab.uiuc.eduNot very pretty is it? Nor is it standards compliant. Nor does it passaccessibility level 3.I'd have thought websites dealing with disabilities would be leading the waybut I've seen other such websites that fail badly.--Chris
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