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From: L Snider
Date: Nov 21, 2022 2:36PM

My personal view, I would say authors need to learn more about making PDFs
more accessible. Headings are important, and using them in order is very
important (WCAG can say what it likes but I listen to the screen reader
users I know who rely on this technology every day and they want numbered
headings in the right order).

Most of the every day screen reader users I know dislike the blank
paragraphs...think of how much time every day you spend trying to read
everything from social media, emails, websites, apps to an e-book to read
before bed and much of it is problematic. It only takes a few minutes to
artifact blank P tags in a PDF, in fact it is one of the easiest things we
can do with a PDF :)

Cheers

Lisa

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 5:02 PM Hayman, Douglass < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> I think that like skipping heading levels, having those blank "P' tags can
> be problematic. If one is on a web page and hits "2" with NVDA and it says
> no next heading level 2, I wouldn't imagine people would then try "3", "4",
> "5", or "6". Sure, they could hit "H" and hear "no next heading" but I've
> seen several PDF files that have a third of a page of single "P" tags which
> read "blank, blank, blank" whereas not being there, it jumps to the next
> tagged content.
>
> Not sure if you're getting at both authors to do the right thing as well
> as AT users to know their tech?
>
> Doug Hayman
> IT Accessibility Coordinator
> Information Technology
> Olympic College
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> (360) 475-7632
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