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From: Sumit Patel
Date: Apr 24, 2023 12:08PM

so, you say it is not a failure of 3.3.2 if an example format is not
given for the mail fields like mail id and zip code as the user
already knows what would be the correct format . It is just a good
practice
Same with 3.3.3

But, in case if the user has to enter the country code also along with
the 10 digit number ,
The user won't be knowing the same if an instruction is not provided



On 22/04/2023, glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> 3.3.2 says labels OR instructions. That is, one or the other is required.
> Both is common but not necessary to pass. The first line of the
> understanding doc says "The intent of this Success Criterion is to have
> content authors present instructions or labels that identify the controls
> in a form so that users know what input data is expected."
>
> Having a label of "email" or "zipcode" or "phone" is common enough that
> "users know what input data is expected". While you could give examples of
> formats, I don't think it's necessary, at least to pass 3.3.2, although
> it's often a good practice to do so.
>
> A date field might need instructions if you're allowing the user to type in
> a value. Ideally, you let them type in a date in any format they want and
> you, being a smart programmer, figure it out. The locale might come into
> play so that if a user types "01-04-2023", that could either be January 4th
> or April 1st. But if you are forcing the user to type in the date in a
> specific way, then instructions would be needed.
>
> And for error suggestions, as the SC says, if "suggestions for correction
> are known, then the suggestions are provided to the user". If you try to
> parse an email address and it fails, I suppose you could be very specific
> and say the "@" sign is missing or the domain name is missing, or you could
> do as you suggested and say it should be in the format of <EMAIL REMOVED>
> but I probably wouldn't fail it if it only said "provide a valid email
> address".
>
> For something like creating a password, if you have restrictions such as
> number of letters or special characters, you could be specific and say "not
> enough letters" or "missing an uppercase letter", etc.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 12:29 AM Sumit Patel < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> Hai all,
>>
>> I was going through 3.3.2 labels or instructions,
>> according to g89 - https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Techniques/general/G89
>> We need to provide instruction about the restriction on the format
>> fields. They have given Date field as an example.
>> So, I think it is applicable for fields like mail id, mobile number
>> and zip code also .
>> need to provide instruction like " <EMAIL REMOVED> ", "5-digit zip
>> code", "10-digit mobile number" etc.
>>
>> Similarly, according to 3.3.3 error suggestion, we need to make the
>> error messages descriptive in a way which helps user to understand
>> what is the valid format.
>> For example, instead of saying "provide valid mail id" , "provide
>> valid mail id. for example: <EMAIL REMOVED> "
>>
>> So, is it mandatory to mention the expected format of these fields in
>> both these scenarios? first one isbefore making the error and second
>> one is in the error message .
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sumit.
>> >> >> >> >>
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