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From: Priti Rohra
Date: Apr 25, 2023 4:08AM

Sumit agree that the name of the person is not important here but the
person's name helps us (screen reader users) to differentiate one "Read
more" link from another. I know it does not give enough context but does
give us some context - some context is better than no context! So screen
reader will read the link as "Read more on Sumit's review" rather than just
saying "Read more about this review".

Also agree with Glen, we should use aria-labelledby instead of aria-label
to add more context since person giving the review is subject to change and
if we hard code via aria-label than chances are that aria-label does not
get updated and the content, i.e. the review gets updated.

Lastly, if this is a fail or not depends on how it is structured. If there
are "Read more" links then at 2.4.4 Link Purpose Level A, such links need
to be marked up in the same <p>, <ul> or <ol>, <table> etc. in order to
meet the criterion. Refer techniques H77, 78 and 79 for more details.

Always BPositive!
Priti Rohra


On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 11:36 AM Sumit Patel < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> Thanks for your response.
>
> But, is it somethikg which need to be marked as a failure ?
> Because I feel the impact or the importance is really less as the
> name of the person here is not at all important .
> We'll choose whether we need to read more or not based on the visible
> part of the review content.
> The name here does not influence the user anyhow to do that .
>
> If the persons were someone who is established in this field and their
> name has the ability to influence the user to read the complete
> review, then I think the name is important.
>
> Else, it might be a good practice, not a failure.
>
> This is just my perception. I am just seeing how much important their
> names or what benefit the screen reader user gets if the name gets
> associated
>
>
> On 25/04/2023, glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > The issue Lisa mentioned would be covered under 2.5.3. If the visible
> > label says "read more" but the aria-label is "read more about this
> review",
> > then 2.5.3 is satisfied and a voice interface should allow "click read
> > more" (although it'll highlight all the "read more" links).
> >
> > But I don't see "read more" as any more descriptive than "read more about
> > this review". I still don't know which review I'm reading more about so
> I
> > would still fail 2.4.4 (if it's a link) or 2.4.6 (if it's a button).
> >
> > Reviews often have the person's name, as you mentioned, and might
> include a
> > short title for the review. Either one of those should be associated
> with
> > the "read more". I like to use aria-labelled by rather than
> > aria-describedby so that if the screen reader user brings up a list of
> > links or a list of buttons, the context of the "read more" will appear in
> > that dialog. Accessible descriptions aren't shown in those dialogs. But
> > that's just my personal preference.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >