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From: Karen McCall
Date: Aug 18, 2023 6:43AM

I too hate the new UI. It seems to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic because they don't know what to do or care about accessibility and the user experience.

When I first tried the new UI, I noticed that many of my keyboard commands didn't work and while I could "try" it in one place of the UI, I had to search through all items in the new UI until I found how to turn it off...and the language to turn it off was different from the language to turn it on. It is as if they want you to get permanently stuck using a UI that is inaccessible and not user friendly.

There are MANY other aspects to creating and remediating PDFs to be accessible but there is an insistence on just making cosmetic changes to the UI to make it even shinier without substance.

And if Foxit can let us increase the font size in the Tags Tree, why can't Adobe let us do it in all panels? That is the only think I like about Foxit...it lacks many of the tools Acrobat has...but letting us increase the font size in the Navigation panels seems like something easy to do!

Cheers, Karen

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From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Laura Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 6:00 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] New Acrobat Interface

I occasionally use autotag (like when I have a boatload of lists), but it's error prone again. I'm thinking of rolling back to previous version. They broke something. I should document the errors as I come across them but I've been too swamped with work to do so.

Also, I wish I could turn their dang popups off. No, I don't want anyone to e-sign it. No, I don't want to share for collabloration.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 7:13 AM L Snider < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> I totally dislike the new interface on PC. No, I hate it. Been using
> this program since it began. This is the worst version, terrible, they
> completely changed it up.
>
> I don’t think they have the wizards anymore, I couldn’t find them. I
> use the Accessibility wizard a lot. I tried to do remediation with the
> new interface, and went right back to the old one, I was mad at the
> new interface, so I didn’t do much with it.
>
> I’m almost considering getting out of PDF remediation, because of the
> acrobat interface. At some point they won’t let me change back, and
> then I’ll have to decide what I do.
>
> I just don’t understand adobe. Microsoft made changes in their culture
> and products years past. They are not perfect, but their are way
> further ahead, and have been for 7-9 years.
>
> Adobe still doesn’t take Accessibility seriously enough, except with
> InDesign. I know they do a lot of stuff behind the scenes, and thank
> you Bevi for helping then, but it isn’t enough, and it hasn’t been
> for over 8 years. This is a major worldwide software company, and I
> honestly don’t understand why they make the decisions they make.
>
> I don’t understand why Accessibility still has to be voted important
> with them??? to me that shows the culture of adobe is still years
> behind… My views only, and I know they wont change a damn thing. If
> there was an EPUB viewer built into every browser, I would spend every
> waking hour, making sure that that takes over from PDF.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:12 PM < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > Wondering if any on the list have installed the newest version of
> > Adobe Acrobat, version 2023. And if so, what are your thoughts about
> > the new interface, which Adobe has called the "Modern Viewer."
> >
> > I'm talking about Adobe Acrobat software, not PDF files in general
> > which can be made and used by more than 100 different programs from
> > other
> companies.
> >
> > Please let Adobe's engineers know your thoughts at their User Voice
> webpage
> > <
> >
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> >
> > Your vote is critical to let Adobe's powers know that the latest
> > version doesn't meet our industry's needs, and in fact, makes the
> > software less accessible than before.
> >
> > My reaction (disclaimer, I'm on Adobe's beta testing team and their
> > community forums) is like hundreds of others who depend on Acrobat
> > to create, use, and process PDF files:
> >
> > 1. It's inaccessible. So many features are not fully available to
> > screen readers and other A T: bookmarks panel, comments panel,
> > redacting, digital signatures, OCR, accessibility remediation are just a few.
> >
> > 2. The interface consists of many panels with small grey icons
> > scattered throughout in no logical order. I'm sighted and can't find
> tools
> > that I've been using for 20+ years.
> >
> > 3. They switched the left-hand panels to the right side, and the
> > right-hand panels to the left - for no apparent reason, other than
> > to frustrate every Acrobat user.
> >
> > 4. Many of its critical tools are still broken - creating accessible
> > PDFs, signing PDFs, filling out forms, OCR, combining PDFs, editing
> > PDFs
> -
> > the list of problems in Acrobat is endless.
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts.
> >
> > And if you want to disable the new interface and revert to the old,
> > instructions are at the end of the webpage listed above.
> >
> > -Bevi Chagnon
> >
> >
> >
> > - - -
> >
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