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From: Joelle Tegwen
Date: Jun 10, 2005 3:22PM

I'm going to talk to our designers about moving from two radios to one
checkbox, thus eliminating a lot of our needed fieldsets. But we have over
70 activities and they all have fieldsets. I just gave 1 example.

But I do have many cases where I have things like:
List 5 people that can help you with this:
1. <input type="text">
2. <input type="text">
3. <input type="text">
4. <input type="text">
5. <input type="text">

And these clearly qualify for a fieldset/legend.

We *must* be accessible to screen readers (our mission is to support people
with disabilities) so the "List 5 people.." needs to be associated with the
1, 2, 3, 4 & 5. His example only associates the "List 5 people..." with the
1st control.

Could we use a <dl>? Can form controls go inside a dl?

Thanks
Joelle




-----Original Message-----
From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Thomas Jedenfelt
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:37 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] RE: Long form legends

Okay, as my previous suggestions did not cause shouts of joy, let's try
another one:

In below suggestion I use CHECKBOX and TEXT field.

There are no LEGEND, FIELDSET or RADIO elements.
(Joelle had problems with styling LEGEND / FIELDSET. And AFB suggests
avoiding RADIO [1].)

There are only five or six questions, so I do not see a need for LEGEND /
FIELDSET.
Does anyone agree?

I have rephrased the text of the labels.

I have omitted the attributes.

<p><label>
<input type="checkbox">
Yes, I will need assistance with arranging transportation when I do things
out in the community.
</label></p>

<p><label>
<input type="checkbox">
Yes, I could get a ride with someone who is already involved in the
organization.
</label></p>

<p><label>
I can not get a ride with someone who is already involved in the
organization, but these persons can give me a ride:
<input type="text" value="name">
</label></p>

<p><label>
<input type="checkbox">
Yes, I will need extra time to complete some activities and assignments.
</label></p>

<p><label>
I will need this kind of support from someone while I am actually on-site
volunteering or doing community service:
<input type="text" value="text">
</label></p>


Also, this article may be of interest:

Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox, 27-Sep-2004
'Checkboxes vs. Radio Buttons'
(http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040927.html)

Regards,
Thomas Jedenfelt

[1]
AFB suggests avoiding RADIO.
AccessWorld issue of March 2004.
http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw050204

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, AFB's advice is still on their Web
site, one year after the article.
(http://www.afb.org/Section.asp?SectionID=57&;TopicID=167&DocumentID=2375&Mod
e=Print)

I wonder if AFB, as of today, still recommends that RADIO should be avoided.
Or, if they haven't as yet updated the Web page?

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