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RE: UDM from Brothercake for drop-down menus

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From: John Foliot - WATS.ca
Date: Oct 16, 2005 5:20PM

Al Sparber wrote:
> From: "John Foliot - WATS.ca" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Not so long ago, Mr. Sparber appeared on an accessibility list[1]
>> and
>> declared that the PVII dropdown menu was "accessible" - halleluiah -
>> and
>> that users of DreamWeaver should run to his site and download the
>> solution for a mere $90.00 US (never mind that there are other Open
>> Source solutions out there...)
>
> That is a lie. I am not slandering you or saying anything that should
> have the minsiters of this list scold me. I am simply defending myself
> from a liar. And that is the truth.

http://www.webaim.org/discussion/mail_message.php?id=7121

"...We will continue
to proudly describe our menu system as meeting Section 508 and WAI
checkpoint 3 guidelines and all non-obsessive subjective criteria, as
well...."

http://www.webaim.org/discussion/mail_message.php?id=7136

"...I'm defending my product because an opinion issued by Thatcher was
posted on our public newsgroup and it claimed our menu was not
accessible. I disagree..."

"...A simple look at the number of people who have to use the keyboard
(I
totally discount people who choose not to use a mouse, as they are
primarily over-zealous about something or other) paints a clear
course: Develop for the majority and provide alternate paths for the
minority. If you do it in reverse that's an opinion now, is it not? ..."

Finally:
My response post to Mr. Sparber outlining the accessibility issues of
his dropdown menus, which led, in part, to Project 7 writing their
"tutorial" piece:

http://www.webaim.org/discussion/mail_message.php?id=7150

I'm all done list admins <wink>

Later...

JF
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John Foliot <EMAIL REMOVED>
Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca
Web Accessibility Testing and Services
http://www.wats.ca
Phone: 1-613-482-7053