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From: Shawn Lawler
Date: Feb 7, 2006 2:45PM

Martin,

I took a glance through your markup...

It's pretty messy in there; as in it isn't valid markup (example: you're
using id="leftnav" more than once - id's can be used only once per page).
You'll want to use the w3c validation service to check your code - once
you've done this you'll have a stable place to start looking for fixes to
your remaining bugs.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.caac.up.ac.za%2Fsanpad%2F

Shawn Lawler


-----Original Message-----
From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Martin Pistorius
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:23 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Tool tips and screen readers

Hi there,

I'm working on a Sub-site and I found Joelle's post interesting not only for

its content but also for the issue in IE 6 because I've done something, and

I haven't worked out what but something, I suspect in the CSS is cause IE 6
to crash, particularly if you "hover" over the links. At first I thought it
was just my PC, but I posted the development pages on a server today for
comments from my colleagues, and they found the same problem.
I don't know has anybody come across this Bug before?

I've also got another problem with Firefox 1.5.01 its applying the effects
set to for hyperlinks to the normal text (i.e. not a hyperlink) and I
haven't worked out why yet either. Any ideas?

I suspect its got something to do with the a:focus, a:hover and a:active
properties in the CSS. What I'm trying to achieve is to increase the
visibility of where the focus is on the page when Tabbing, much like it is
on the webaim site, as I'm a person with a disability and either use a head
mouse or the Tab key to navigate and it can be really difficult to see where

you are on the page when Tabbing through the links on some pages.

Now, I am very new and quite inexperienced to web site development so
perhaps this is just a "newbie's" mistake. Also, I know my is code a little
messy at the moment, I'll tidy it up by the time the site gets released to
the public but you can view the initial development pages and the bugs here:

http://www.caac.up.ac.za/sanpad/

Martin Pistorius


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joelle Tegwen" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: [WebAIM] Tool tips and screen readers


> I'm working on this page
> http://ici1.umn.edu/beta/nceo/tooltips/accommodations/response.asp (looks
> horrible in IE until you hover over enough of the oddly positioned links
> and I'm working on that. if you have any ideas I 'd love to hear it.) to
> create tool tips that show extra information and I'm wondering about
> screen readers and other accessibility.
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> Someone suggested using <a title=""> instead and I'm wondering how that
> gets processed by the screen reader. Does it still read the link text?
> How about the method that I used. Does it read the information in the
> <span> at all? If not is there a way to get around this?
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> I've been moving out of the css realm so I'm a little rusty and would
> appreciate any help or suggestions.
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> Thanks
> Joelle Tegwen
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