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From: Kilcommons,Cath
Date: Tue, Mar 12 2002 5:14PM
Subject: RE: Complication of the alt text issue
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Regarding using ALT and TITLE- remember that in IE, ALT will be displayed as a "tool tip" and TITLE will be read by JAWS (3.7 & 4.0)-- can't generalize that behavior to other browsers and screen readers, but that is how those two work.

Regards,
Cath

Cath Stager- Kilcommons
Assistive Technology Support and
Web Accessibility Coordinator
Assistive Technology Resource Center
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Colorado State University
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From: John Foliot - bytown internet
Date: Tue, Mar 12 2002 7:10PM
Subject: RE: Complication of the alt text issue
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Actually, in IE 6 the Title overrides the Alt text as the "tool tip"

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From: Tim Harshbarger
Date: Thu, Mar 14 2002 11:49AM
Subject: RE: Complication of the alt text issue
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Lisa,

To build further upon Jim's thoughts, my understanding of voice recognition
is that it uses the information in the ALT text as well. So, the ALT text
should reflect the stylised text in the graphic to help people using voice
recognition as well.

Tim
Tim Harshbarger
State Farm Insurance Companies
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From: Leo Smith
Date: Thu, Mar 14 2002 12:05PM
Subject: RE: Complication of the alt text issue
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Therefore allowing you to provide alt text that doesn't show up as a
tooltip in IE6 if the designer is *so* against that:

<img src="image.gif" width="180" height="39" alt="nothing will
show as a tooltip in IE6" title="">

Of course, this doesn't then allow you to use the title attribute for
useful content, as it must remain empty.

Leo.

On 12 Mar 2002, at 21:10, John Foliot - bytown internet wrote:

> Actually, in IE 6 the Title overrides the Alt text as the "tool tip"



Leo Smith
Web Designer/Developer
USM Office of Publications and Marketing
University of Southern Maine
207-780-4774


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From: Mark Rew
Date: Thu, Mar 14 2002 12:23PM
Subject: Re: Complication of the alt text issue
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I hope I'm not missing the point here with my following comments.

If an alt tag is empty (alt=" ") some type of color, yellow, or highlight
shows on the screen when the mouse is moved over the graphic? Well if the alt
tag is null (alt="") nothing should appear on the screen, but screen readers
will skip the graphic without trying to say the graphic file address.

I started out advising my developers to use NULL alt tags until a sighted
person told me there was value in using the empty alt tag to track when the
mouse is moving over the graphic.

Mark Rew
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Subject: RE: Complication of the alt text issue


> Therefore allowing you to provide alt text that doesn't show up as a
> tooltip in IE6 if the designer is *so* against that:
>
> <img src="image.gif" width="180" height="39" alt="nothing will
> show as a tooltip in IE6" title="">
>
> Of course, this doesn't then allow you to use the title attribute for
> useful content, as it must remain empty.
>
> Leo.
>
> On 12 Mar 2002, at 21:10, John Foliot - bytown internet wrote:
>
> > Actually, in IE 6 the Title overrides the Alt text as the "tool tip"
>
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>
> Leo Smith
> Web Designer/Developer
> USM Office of Publications and Marketing
> University of Southern Maine
> 207-780-4774
>
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