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From: Geof Collis
Date: Tue, Oct 06 2009 7:40AM
Subject: IE 8
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Hi All
Has anyone any experience with IE 8?

I've just seen some of my sites with it and it strips out all of the
colours I've specified in my css and does not allow for style
switching, it appears that it using my desktop colour scheme to
render the sites. .

Any input or articles on what is going on would be greatly appreciated.

cheers

Geof




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From: Simius Puer
Date: Tue, Oct 06 2009 7:55AM
Subject: Re: IE 8
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Hi Geoff

I've been testing plenty of sites in IE8 since the early betas were
available. It does have some unusual behaviors compared to earlier versions
of IE but is a lot more compliant than all its predecessors. I won't claim
it's perfect but if your CSS is solid you shouldn't have any issues.

Are you using conditional CSS statements such as <!--[if
IE]>.......<![endif]-->? If so try altering the condition to <!--[if lt IE
8]>. Off the top of my head I can't remember but it might also be doing
something different with @import rules.

Are you using any browser based "user over-rides" to alter the CSS?

You might also want to look if your sites are tripping IE into "quirks mode"
as that can impact on its behaviour.

I'm not officially endorsing this product but
http://my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage is a superb little tool for
ironing out your IE woes.

If you fancy posting a link to some of your sites here I'm sure someone can
probably help.

From: Steve Green
Date: Tue, Oct 06 2009 8:00AM
Subject: Re: IE 8
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We have tested quite a bit with it. Some sites are perfect, while others
break horribly. The impression I have gained is that the sites that break
horribly are generally not coded well (e.g. they are relying on browser bugs
to display correctly) or they use conditional comments to work correctly in
Internet Explorer 6 and 7 and need something similar for Internet Explorer
8.

I don't recall seeing any standards-compliant sites break badly, although
they may not render identically to Internet Explorer 7.

We have also seen several sites where JavaScript does not work in IE8 even
though it works in IE7 or in IE8 compatibility mode. I have not diagnosed
any of these but I suspect it is down to bad coding that IE7 tolerates and
IE8 doesn't.

Steve Green
Director
Test Partners Ltd


From: Geof Collis
Date: Tue, Oct 06 2009 9:15AM
Subject: Re: IE 8
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Hi Steve

I wish I used conditional comments and hacks, at least that would
explain what is going wrong, my layouts are right but background
colours on certain elements aren't showing. On one example I've set
the background colour to blue and the text to white, it renders the
text colour but not the background.

I have style switchers on my sites and they dont work any more.

My server is down right now so I dont have any examples to show, but
one of the sites is www.accessibilitynewsinternational.com, beside
the image of the planet earth is some text, the background is
supposed to be blue and the text white.

As I had mentioned though, if I change my desktop theme the page
renders the colors of that particular theme, text and background for example.

cheers

Geof



At 09:55 AM 10/6/2009, you wrote:
>We have tested quite a bit with it. Some sites are perfect, while others
>break horribly. The impression I have gained is that the sites that break
>horribly are generally not coded well (e.g. they are relying on browser bugs
>to display correctly) or they use conditional comments to work correctly in
>Internet Explorer 6 and 7 and need something similar for Internet Explorer
>8.
>
>I don't recall seeing any standards-compliant sites break badly, although
>they may not render identically to Internet Explorer 7.
>
>We have also seen several sites where JavaScript does not work in IE8 even
>though it works in IE7 or in IE8 compatibility mode. I have not diagnosed
>any of these but I suspect it is down to bad coding that IE7 tolerates and
>IE8 doesn't.
>
>Steve Green
>Director
>Test Partners Ltd
>
>
>

From: Geof Collis
Date: Wed, Oct 07 2009 6:35AM
Subject: Re: IE 8
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>Hi Andrew
>
>My CSS is pretty simple stuff and validates so I think it is ok. I
>use external style sheets that can be switched usig php. I've
>noticed that no matter what style sheet I specify as the default I
>still get my desktop theme overriding it.
>
>I only use 1 conditional statement but it doesn't affect the colour,
>at least I dont think it would:
><!--[if IE]>
> <style type="text/css">
> body {word-wrap: break-word;}
> </style>
><![endif]-->
>
>Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
>
>
>Here is a link to one of my sites
>http://www.accessibilitynewsinternational.com/ as I said in an
>earlier post the background colour beside the planet earth is
>supposed to be blue.
>
>I'm going to go through my computer settings and see if there is
>something else causing this problem, I just got a brand new computer
>so there might be some compatibility problems. I also got JAWS 10
>and I am not impressed at all.
>
>cheers and thanks
>
>Geof
>
>
>

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