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From: deblist
Date: Mon, Nov 09 2009 9:15PM
Subject: wai-aria test cases misbehaving
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I've been trying to debug the WAI-ARIA alerts on a page I'm
writing and their interaction with JAWS 10 and Firefox 3.5.5. The
code all appeared to be reporting correctly, and JAWS was
definitely configured to be announcing live regions, but the page
doesn't announce any of the alerts. Finally, as a sanity check, I
just checked to make sure the test cases at
<http://wiki.codetalks.org/wiki/index.php/Set_of_ARIA_Test_Cases>;
worked -- and they didn't.

I understand those test cases were run against Firefox 3 beta,
but I don't see any indication in
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=343213&hide_resolved=1>
that a regression was introduced. Could this be a problem with my
configuration? Or is the JAWS/Firefox 3/WAI-ARIA interaction not
as stable as I thought it was? Or something else?

Thanks very much,

-deborah

From: Jared Smith
Date: Mon, Nov 09 2009 10:05PM
Subject: Re: wai-aria test cases misbehaving
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On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:50 PM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Finally, as a sanity check, I
> just checked to make sure the test cases at
> <http://wiki.codetalks.org/wiki/index.php/Set_of_ARIA_Test_Cases>;
> worked -- and they didn't.

I just tried many of them and they seem to be working fine with JAWS
10 and Firefox 3.5.5 on my end.

There are lots of places where ARIA implementation is pretty patchy
yet, but live-regions generally work fairly well in this combination,
if coded correctly.

Jared

From: deblist
Date: Tue, Nov 10 2009 6:50AM
Subject: Re: wai-aria test cases misbehaving
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Jared Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:50 PM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> Finally, as a sanity check, I
>> just checked to make sure the test cases at
>> <http://wiki.codetalks.org/wiki/index.php/Set_of_ARIA_Test_Cases>;
>> worked -- and they didn't.
>
> I just tried many of them and they seem to be working fine with JAWS
> 10 and Firefox 3.5.5 on my end.

Interesting. Would you mind testing specifically
<http://codetalks.org/source/enhanced-html-forms/client-form-validation-invalid-and-alert.html>;?
Several of the others worked for me, but I couldn't get the
alerts to report on that one. If you can, that's evident to me
that there is something wrong with my configuration.

Thanks so much,

-Deborah

From: Pratik Patel
Date: Tue, Nov 10 2009 7:05AM
Subject: Re: wai-aria test cases misbehaving
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Jared Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:50 PM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> Finally, as a sanity check, I
>> just checked to make sure the test cases at
>> <http://wiki.codetalks.org/wiki/index.php/Set_of_ARIA_Test_Cases>;
>> worked -- and they didn't.
>
> I just tried many of them and they seem to be working fine with JAWS
> 10 and Firefox 3.5.5 on my end.

Interesting. Would you mind testing specifically
<http://codetalks.org/source/enhanced-html-forms/client-form-validation-inva
lid-and-alert.html>?
Several of the others worked for me, but I couldn't get the
alerts to report on that one. If you can, that's evident to me
that there is something wrong with my configuration.
I just tested the alerts on the given page with JAWS 11, NVDA, Firefox 3.5
and Firefox beta 3.6. They seem to work without a problem.

Pratik