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From: Will Grignon
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 12:54PM
Subject: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Anyone know why buttons on a website would work in Internet Explorer 8 and
not in Firefox 8.1?
From: Tim Arnold
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 1:27PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Will Grignon < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Anyone know why buttons on a website would work in Internet Explorer 8 and
> not in Firefox 8.1?
Without a link to an example, I wouldn't know where to start.
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From: Ryan Hemphill
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 1:54PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Define 'work'?
Are you using ARIA?
A normal button?
Does it have the tabindex attribute?
Are you using JAWS and pressing the space bar or are you hitting
enter/return?
Are you using a screen reader at all?
I agree with Tim, give us something to review at and I'll be happy to look
it over.
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Tim Arnold < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Will Grignon < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
> > Anyone know why buttons on a website would work in Internet Explorer 8
> and
> > not in Firefox 8.1?
>
> Without a link to an example, I wouldn't know where to start.
>
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From: Will Grignon
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 2:00PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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I'm using JAWS and I've used both the space bar and the enter key.
From: Bourne, Sarah (ITD)
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 2:09PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Will,
I have to resort to guessing here (can you give us a link?) but maybe they are using something proprietary, such as an Active X control, instead of a standard HTML form control.
sb
Sarah E. Bourne
Director of Assistive Technology &
Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
Information Technology Division
Commonwealth of Massachusetts
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From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 2:15PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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I've seen something like this before.
Try this:
Tab to the button, press insert+3 to pass a keystroke through, and press the
Enter key.
Does it work then?
If it does, then they are likely using a keypress handler to control the
click, which JAWS doesn't recognize, you have to also include a click
handler to make it work.
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From: "Will Grignon" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
> I'm using JAWS and I've used both the space bar and the enter key.
>
>
From: Will Grignon
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 2:27PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Bryan,
Nope. The cursor just sits there.
Thanks.
From: Will Grignon
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 2:33PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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I'm sorry, all. It's a site that is under development and the pages that
house the buttons in question are only accessible via log-in.
I was just hoping that someone has experienced different results in FF and
IE re buttons.
BTW - by " don't work" I mean that when I hit Space Bar or Enter on these
buttons, nothing happens - the cursor just sits on the button and the site
does not open a new page...
Thanks. I'll work with the site's developers...
From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 2:39PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Strange, taking it apart is probably the only solution then.
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To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
> Bryan,
>
> Nope. The cursor just sits there.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
From: Steve Green
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 5:30PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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I have encountered a website where it was necessary to trigger an
onMouseover event before a button worked. I had to give focus to the
element, use Ctrl+Insert+Enter to trigger onMouseover, then press the Enter
key.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
From: Will Grignon
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 6:09PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Steve,
Thanks for the recommendation, but the cursor just sits there on the button.
I've alerted the site's developers...
Thanks All.
From: Ryan Hemphill
Date: Tue, Mar 06 2012 7:42PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Make sure that the button is focus able with the tab index attribute.
No button is going to click unless it's a true form element without
that. Since you can't show us the site, why don't you at least cut
and paste the small bit of HTML that we are discussing here? At the
absolute least we can eliminate some of the more obvious problems that
you might be having.
Another thing that you might want to make sure of is that when you are
'clicking' on the button that it is actually receiving focus in the
first place. If that is not the case, try tabbing onto the button
from above and give it another try. Finding out if there is a
discrepancy between these two behaviors may be important to tracking
down the solution you need.
One more thing - are you familiar with Firebug? Don't know what you
level of technical knowledge is, but we could potentially try some
other things before you put it back in development's lap. If they
don't know much more than anyone else about a11y issues, it might not
help as much as you would hope.
Well, I always like a good problem, so let me know how things are
going. If it turns out to be something really weird - then I REALLY
want to know, so don't forget me if that turns out to be the case.
I'll add it to my 'library'.
Ryan.
On 3/6/12, Will Grignon < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Thanks for the recommendation, but the cursor just sits there on the button.
>
> I've alerted the site's developers...
>
> Thanks All.
>
From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Wed, Mar 07 2012 6:54PM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Check the source code Will. My gut says the form is basically not
coded correctly and IE is "helping you out."
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Ryan E. Benson
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Will Grignon < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I'm sorry, all. It's a site that is under development and the pages that
> house the buttons in question are only accessible via log-in.
>
> I was just hoping that someone has experienced different results in FF and
> IE re buttons.
>
> BTW - by " don't work" I mean that when I hit Space Bar or Enter on these
> buttons, nothing happens - the cursor just sits on the button and the site
> does not open a new page...
>
> Thanks. I'll work with the site's developers...
>
>
>
From: Will Grignon
Date: Thu, Mar 08 2012 5:27AM
Subject: Re: buttons work in IE but not in Firefox
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Thanks - evidently the form post was not wrapped around the submit button.