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From: Greg Wocher
Date: Sun, Jul 06 2014 10:32AM
Subject: Question about lynda.com
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Hello all,
I was doing some google searches yesterday looking up various web
accessibility topics and came across lynda.com. It is a tutorial
website. They have courses on quite a few topics. I happen to notice
they seem to have some tutorials on web accessibility. I was wondering
if anyone has ever taken a look at this website? I also see it as one of
the sponsors for the various TWIT shows.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher
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From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Sun, Jul 06 2014 12:01PM
Subject: Re: Question about lynda.com
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Greg and others on WebAIM interested in mainstream online course
sites like this one:
I, for one, would not pay for a Linda.com course/subscription without
at least one person I trust telling me whether it'd be accessible to
me, using a screen reader. If I were you, Greg, I'd focus my
attention first on the resources a number of us have posted to the
list for you. But maybe you already have.
That being said, if you do take a course, please let us know how it
goes, accessibility-wise, from the student perspective.
As a result of my not knowing whether the courses are accessible, I
can't give you a recommendation about the quality of the content. I'd
hope it'd be good.
I do know that at least *some* of the courses have captions, but I
don't know whether that is flagged prior to registration.
For a variety of reasons, I've happened to be looking at this site,
recently, and I didn't find it easy to identify the courses focused
on accessibility. The word "access" comes up often (amidst the
initial some 20,000 results), but some of that may be related, for
example,to Microsoft Access.
Here are a few courses I identified (with instructor names I
recognize), for those who may be interested. This comes from a search
I did at the end of May; there may be more by now, and others may be
in the pipeline:
* Creating Accessible PDFs, by Chad Chelius
* Improving SEO Using Accessibility Techniques, by Morten Rand-Hendriksen
* Web Accessibility Principles, by Zoe Gillenwater
It'd be great if the site would improve its search capability,
although perhaps it does, for subscribers. I'm not saying that I
think accessibility should always and everywhere be a separate topic;
in fact, I don't. I think it should be integrated into all courses
where it's relevant. But it'd be helpful if they started flagging,
via their Metadata, when accessibility is covered as a part of the
course. Or maybe they could display groups of courses that "go
together." Again, maybe they already do.
Best,
Jennifer
From: Elizabeth J. Pyatt
Date: Mon, Jul 07 2014 7:08AM
Subject: Re: Question about lynda.com
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I am familiar with the Lynda.com accessibility tutorials and generally recommend them.
One is "Web Accessibility Principles" by Soe Gillenwater which is a few years old. The basic concepts it's teaching are sound, but it assumes Section 508 and that you're working working with Dreamweaver. However I think most code lessons can be applied elsewhere.
I also recommend their "Creating Accessible PDFs" as it covers the how-tos for a lot of common scenarios. It's by Chad Chelius who is an Adobe Certified Instructor.
In general Lynda.com is starting to incorporate accessibility in many of their other tutorials such as Flash, Acrobat, icon fonts and other topics.
Hope this helps.
Elizabeth
P.S. There is the course "Improving SEO Using Accessibility Techniques" which also has some useful information but is much shorter than the others. IMO though the title is a little off-putting (although well-implemanted accessibility really does improve SEO).
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> From: Greg Wocher < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Question about lynda.com
> Date: July 6, 2014 12:32:05 PM EDT
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>
>
> Hello all,
> I was doing some google searches yesterday looking up various web accessibility topics and came across lynda.com. It is a tutorial website. They have courses on quite a few topics. I happen to notice they seem to have some tutorials on web accessibility. I was wondering if anyone has ever taken a look at this website? I also see it as one of the sponsors for the various TWIT shows.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg Wocher
>
> --
> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
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Instructional Designer
Teaching and Learning with Technology
Penn State University
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210 Rider Building (formerly Rider II)
227 W. Beaver Avenue
State College, PA 16801-4819
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http://tlt.psu.edu
From: Pamela Riesmeyer
Date: Mon, Jul 07 2014 7:35AM
Subject: Re: Question about lynda.com
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I have to agree with Elizabeth Pyatt. I also use and recommend Lynda.com.
One of the things that I like about some of their tutorials is that they
are incorporating accessibility within the training, so that it's seamless,
which to me is important in the long term. In the WordPress tutorial, for
instance, that Morten Rand-Hendriksen does, he builds accessibility into
the process of adding images, etc.
I have talked with them about adding information about creating accessible
documents to their tutorials on Microsoft Office applications and they have
been receptive to the conversation. They're approachable and I think that's
going to be what helps us get to a place where accessibility is a given,
not an add-on.
Thanks,
Pam
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Elizabeth J. Pyatt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I am familiar with the Lynda.com accessibility tutorials and generally
> recommend them.
>
> One is "Web Accessibility Principles" by Soe Gillenwater which is a few
> years old. The basic concepts it's teaching are sound, but it assumes
> Section 508 and that you're working working with Dreamweaver. However I
> think most code lessons can be applied elsewhere.
>
> I also recommend their "Creating Accessible PDFs" as it covers the how-tos
> for a lot of common scenarios. It's by Chad Chelius who is an Adobe
> Certified Instructor.
>
> In general Lynda.com is starting to incorporate accessibility in many of
> their other tutorials such as Flash, Acrobat, icon fonts and other topics.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Elizabeth
>
> P.S. There is the course "Improving SEO Using Accessibility Techniques"
> which also has some useful information but is much shorter than the others.
> IMO though the title is a little off-putting (although well-implemanted
> accessibility really does improve SEO).
>
> On Jul 6, 2014, at 2:00 PM, = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = wrote:
>
> > From: Greg Wocher < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: [WebAIM] Question about lynda.com
> > Date: July 6, 2014 12:32:05 PM EDT
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Reply-To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> > I was doing some google searches yesterday looking up various web
> accessibility topics and came across lynda.com. It is a tutorial website.
> They have courses on quite a few topics. I happen to notice they seem to
> have some tutorials on web accessibility. I was wondering if anyone has
> ever taken a look at this website? I also see it as one of the sponsors for
> the various TWIT shows.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg Wocher
> >
> > --
> > Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
> Instructional Designer
> Teaching and Learning with Technology
> Penn State University
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = , (814) 865-0805 or (814) 865-2030 (Main Office)
>
> 210 Rider Building (formerly Rider II)
> 227 W. Beaver Avenue
> State College, PA 16801-4819
> http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/psu
> http://tlt.psu.edu
>
> > > >
--
Pamela Riesmeyer
Web Accessibility Coordinator
Purdue University Calumet
Office: 219-989-2731
Mobile: 219-730-2751
SKYPE: pamela.riesmeyer
Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Web Site: http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility
<http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility>;
From: Pamela Riesmeyer
Date: Mon, Jul 07 2014 9:13PM
Subject: Re: Question about lynda.com
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Happy to contribute, Cliff.
I've been thinking lately, that a great way to encourage people to
incorporate accessibility into the process of creating anything with a
digital output (app, web page, document, etc.), is to reach out to those
who teach and to those who write/publish textbooks that the teachers use -
or, in this case, create the tutorials.
If the book or tutorial demonstrates that in order to insert an image into
a document, for instance, you follow a set of steps that includes adding
alternate text... then I suspect that will be the method that students will
learn.. for generations to come. This, rather than adding a page or two on
accessibility and asking the document creator to go back and add the alt
text or go back and add the headings, etc. Many people, in my experience
never "go back".
It's convincing the publishers and authors that this would be a good thing!
And the more people they hear it from, the more likely, I think, they are
to consider it.
Thanks,
Pam
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Cliff Tyllick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> I have not tried lynda.com's accessibility courses, but I have been quite
> satisfied with the quality of other courses they offer. Friends of mine who
> have subscribed to their training courses have been even more satisfied.
>
> Pamela, thanks for the idea about contacting them. I have some ideas for
> the Office courses and will follow up. Good to know they're receptiveâmakes
> sense; their courses are consistent with people who care deeply about the
> user experience.
>
> Cliff Tyllick
> AT&T Corporate Accessibility Technology Office
> @clifftyll on Twitter
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 7, 2014 8:37 AM, Pamela Riesmeyer <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Elizabeth Pyatt. I also use and recommend Lynda.com.
>
> One of the things that I like about some of their tutorials is that they
> are incorporating accessibility within the training, so that it's seamless,
> which to me is important in the long term. In the WordPress tutorial, for
> instance, that Morten Rand-Hendriksen does, he builds accessibility into
> the process of adding images, etc.
>
> I have talked with them about adding information about creating accessible
> documents to their tutorials on Microsoft Office applications and they have
> been receptive to the conversation. They're approachable and I think that's
> going to be what helps us get to a place where accessibility is a given,
> not an add-on.
> Thanks,
> Pam
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Elizabeth J. Pyatt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > I am familiar with the Lynda.com accessibility tutorials and generally
> > recommend them.
> >
> > One is "Web Accessibility Principles" by Soe Gillenwater which is a few
> > years old. The basic concepts it's teaching are sound, but it assumes
> > Section 508 and that you're working working with Dreamweaver. However I
> > think most code lessons can be applied elsewhere.
> >
> > I also recommend their "Creating Accessible PDFs" as it covers the
> how-tos
> > for a lot of common scenarios. It's by Chad Chelius who is an Adobe
> > Certified Instructor.
> >
> > In general Lynda.com is starting to incorporate accessibility in many of
> > their other tutorials such as Flash, Acrobat, icon fonts and other
> topics.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Elizabeth
> >
> > P.S. There is the course "Improving SEO Using Accessibility Techniques"
> > which also has some useful information but is much shorter than the
> others.
> > IMO though the title is a little off-putting (although well-implemanted
> > accessibility really does improve SEO).
> >
> > On Jul 6, 2014, at 2:00 PM, = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = wrote:
> >
> > > From: Greg Wocher < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > Subject: [WebAIM] Question about lynda.com
> > > Date: July 6, 2014 12:32:05 PM EDT
> > > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > Reply-To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > > I was doing some google searches yesterday looking up various web
> > accessibility topics and came across lynda.com. It is a tutorial
> website.
> > They have courses on quite a few topics. I happen to notice they seem to
> > have some tutorials on web accessibility. I was wondering if anyone has
> > ever taken a look at this website? I also see it as one of the sponsors
> for
> > the various TWIT shows.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Greg Wocher
> > >
> > > --
> > > Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
> >
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> > Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
> > Instructional Designer
> > Teaching and Learning with Technology
> > Penn State University
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = , (814) 865-0805 or (814) 865-2030 (Main Office)
> >
> > 210 Rider Building (formerly Rider II)
> > 227 W. Beaver Avenue
> > State College, PA 16801-4819
> > http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/psu
> > http://tlt.psu.edu
> >
> > > > > > > >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Pamela Riesmeyer
> Web Accessibility Coordinator
> Purdue University Calumet
> Office: 219-989-2731
> Mobile: 219-730-2751
> SKYPE: pamela.riesmeyer
> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Web Site: http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility
> <http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility>;
>
> > > > > > >
--
Pamela Riesmeyer
Web Accessibility Coordinator
Purdue University Calumet
Office: 219-989-2731
Mobile: 219-730-2751
SKYPE: pamela.riesmeyer
Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Web Site: http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility
<http://webs.purduecal.edu/webaccessibility>;