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From: Ajeesh Thomas
Date: Thu, Sep 07 2017 1:02AM
Subject: Calendar widget Date selected status did not announced by JAWS/NVDA
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Hi All ,
We come across a Calendar widget (with Grid Role) -
here, User can select the Dates by using Keyboard - after Selection,
instead closing the Widget -selected Date will be visually Highlighted
with in the Calendar -
However Screen reader is not announcing the Date selection status.
Please see the behavior below.
I. JAWS18 with IE 11:
- Pressing Enter/Space Bar (Date visually highlighted)
JAWS did not announced anything.
- Using Arrow keys (over the Date visually highlighted)
JAWS did not announced anything.

II. VDA 2017.3 with Firefox 50:
- Pressing Enter/Space Bar (Date visually highlighted) NVDA 2017.3 did
not announced anything.
- Using Arrow keys (over the Date visually highlighted) NVDA 2017.3
announced as Highlighted date as - 'Selected.
For example: On Arrow key navigation NVDA announced as 8 Sept 2017 Selected
1. Is there any Screen reader /Browser limitation to update the
Date status with respect to ARIA
2. To make the Date status accessible with in Calendar widget (with
Grid Role) what would be the solution
Request your support in this regards.




--
" Have a fantastic day "ahead"

Ajeesh Chacko Thomas,
senior Accessibility Test Engineer,
IBM India, Banglore,
Mob: 0 81233 81222,Lan: 04742586821, Office: 04443423000
skipe: ajeeshthomas86

'So many things are possible, as long as you don't know they are impossible.-

From: Beranek, Nicholas
Date: Thu, Sep 07 2017 7:03AM
Subject: Re: Calendar widget Date selected status did not announced byJAWS/NVDA
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Hi Ajeesh,

If they are setting aria-selected to "true" for the selected grid cell and "false" to all the others, then that is sufficient to reveal the stat programmatically. I've noticed the same behavior you mention and think we should let the screen reader vendors know. I'd imagine the desired behavior is to announce "selected" when the state of the component you're on changes.

Nick Beranek
Capital One

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:03 AM, Ajeesh Thomas < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi All ,
> We come across a Calendar widget (with Grid Role) -
> here, User can select the Dates by using Keyboard - after Selection,
> instead closing the Widget -selected Date will be visually Highlighted
> with in the Calendar -
> However Screen reader is not announcing the Date selection status.
> Please see the behavior below.
> I. JAWS18 with IE 11:
> - Pressing Enter/Space Bar (Date visually highlighted)
> JAWS did not announced anything.
> - Using Arrow keys (over the Date visually highlighted)
> JAWS did not announced anything.
>
> II. VDA 2017.3 with Firefox 50:
> - Pressing Enter/Space Bar (Date visually highlighted) NVDA 2017.3 did
> not announced anything.
> - Using Arrow keys (over the Date visually highlighted) NVDA 2017.3
> announced as Highlighted date as - 'Selected.
> For example: On Arrow key navigation NVDA announced as 8 Sept 2017 Selected
> 1. Is there any Screen reader /Browser limitation to update the
> Date status with respect to ARIA
> 2. To make the Date status accessible with in Calendar widget (with
> Grid Role) what would be the solution
> Request your support in this regards.
>
>
>
>
> --
> " Have a fantastic day "ahead"
>
> Ajeesh Chacko Thomas,
> senior Accessibility Test Engineer,
> IBM India, Banglore,
> Mob: 0 81233 81222,Lan: 04742586821, Office: 04443423000
> skipe: ajeeshthomas86
>
> 'So many things are possible, as long as you don't know they are impossible.-
> > > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and/or proprietary to Capital One and/or its affiliates and may only be used solely in performance of work or services for Capital One. The information transmitted herewith is intended only for use by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer.

From: Mallory
Date: Fri, Sep 08 2017 7:00AM
Subject: Re: Calendar widget Date selected status did not announced by JAWS/NVDA
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This might have to do with how they're dealing with focus. One can
either keep all the gridded elements as tabindex="-1" and use
aria-activedescendent to set the state of the "current" day, but reading
the spec, it looks like you could also instead combine tabindex="0" on
the currently-focussed item and aria-selected=true (simply because it's
focussed on, and not actually selected as in showing the date in the
input). This would mean a roving selected state, and on some
datepickers, this may actually be filling in that date in the input as
focus moves.

Because we have disabled days on our calendars, we couldn't see a way to
use aria-selected to denote the currently-focussed day (the disabled
days have to be able to receive focus as per the spec so users can
orient) and we couldn't see aria-selected=true on an aria-disabled=true
day making sense, so we only get aria-selected after hitting Enter.
However this doesn't change the aria-activedescendent setting (if that's
what's being announced), so we've tried also setting aria-current="date"
on that element.

The specs didn't really help us figure out what was the best thing to do
in situations where there's disabled days, so we did what a lot of
places do: made stuff up and hoped it worked. We're assuming anyone
unable to tell the the currently-selected date from the calendar would
go back to the text-input part anyway (where the selected date is
displayed as a formatted string).

cheers,
Mallory

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017, at 03:03 PM, Beranek, Nicholas via WebAIM-Forum
wrote:
> Hi Ajeesh,
>
> If they are setting aria-selected to "true" for the selected grid cell
> and "false" to all the others, then that is sufficient to reveal the stat
> programmatically. I've noticed the same behavior you mention and think we
> should let the screen reader vendors know. I'd imagine the desired
> behavior is to announce "selected" when the state of the component you're
> on changes.
>
> Nick Beranek
> Capital One
>
> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:03 AM, Ajeesh Thomas < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Hi All ,
> > We come across a Calendar widget (with Grid Role) -
> > here, User can select the Dates by using Keyboard - after Selection,
> > instead closing the Widget -selected Date will be visually Highlighted
> > with in the Calendar -
> > However Screen reader is not announcing the Date selection status.
> > Please see the behavior below.
> > I. JAWS18 with IE 11:
> > - Pressing Enter/Space Bar (Date visually highlighted)
> > JAWS did not announced anything.
> > - Using Arrow keys (over the Date visually highlighted)
> > JAWS did not announced anything.
> >
> > II. VDA 2017.3 with Firefox 50:
> > - Pressing Enter/Space Bar (Date visually highlighted) NVDA 2017.3 did
> > not announced anything.
> > - Using Arrow keys (over the Date visually highlighted) NVDA 2017.3
> > announced as Highlighted date as - 'Selected.
> > For example: On Arrow key navigation NVDA announced as 8 Sept 2017 Selected
> > 1. Is there any Screen reader /Browser limitation to update the
> > Date status with respect to ARIA
> > 2. To make the Date status accessible with in Calendar widget (with
> > Grid Role) what would be the solution
> > Request your support in this regards.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > " Have a fantastic day "ahead"
> >
> > Ajeesh Chacko Thomas,
> > senior Accessibility Test Engineer,
> > IBM India, Banglore,
> > Mob: 0 81233 81222,Lan: 04742586821, Office: 04443423000
> > skipe: ajeeshthomas86
> >
> > 'So many things are possible, as long as you don't know they are impossible.-
> > > > > > > > > >
> The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and/or
> proprietary to Capital One and/or its affiliates and may only be used
> solely in performance of work or services for Capital One. The
> information transmitted herewith is intended only for use by the
> individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this
> message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
> review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use
> of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information is strictly
> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please
> contact the sender and delete the material from your computer.
> > > >

From: Mallory
Date: Fri, Sep 08 2017 7:08AM
Subject: Re: Calendar widget Date selected status did not announced by JAWS/NVDA
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Hm, I was confused-- we're using aria-current for today's date, not the
selected date.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017, at 03:00 PM, Mallory wrote:
> This might have to do with how they're dealing with focus. One can
> either keep all the gridded elements as tabindex="-1" and use
> aria-activedescendent to set the state of the "current" day, but reading
> the spec, it looks like you could also instead combine tabindex="0" on
> the currently-focussed item and aria-selected=true (simply because it's
> focussed on, and not actually selected as in showing the date in the
> input). This would mean a roving selected state, and on some
> datepickers, this may actually be filling in that date in the input as
> focus moves.
>
> Because we have disabled days on our calendars, we couldn't see a way to
> use aria-selected to denote the currently-focussed day (the disabled
> days have to be able to receive focus as per the spec so users can
> orient) and we couldn't see aria-selected=true on an aria-disabled=true
> day making sense, so we only get aria-selected after hitting Enter.
> However this doesn't change the aria-activedescendent setting (if that's
> what's being announced), so we've tried also setting aria-current="date"
> on that element.
>
> The specs didn't really help us figure out what was the best thing to do
> in situations where there's disabled days, so we did what a lot of
> places do: made stuff up and hoped it worked. We're assuming anyone
> unable to tell the the currently-selected date from the calendar would
> go back to the text-input part anyway (where the selected date is
> displayed as a formatted string).
>
> cheers,
> Mallory
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017, at 03:03 PM, Beranek, Nicholas via WebAIM-Forum
> wrote:
> > Hi Ajeesh,
> >
> > If they are setting aria-selected to "true" for the selected grid cell
> > and "false" to all the others, then that is sufficient to reveal the stat
> > programmatically. I've noticed the same behavior you mention and think we
> > should let the screen reader vendors know. I'd imagine the desired
> > behavior is to announce "selected" when the state of the component you're
> > on changes.
> >
> > Nick Beranek
> > Capital One
> >
> > > On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:03 AM, Ajeesh Thomas < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All ,
> > > We come across a Calendar widget (with Grid Role) -
> > > here, User can select the Dates by using Keyboard - after Selection,
> > > instead closing the Widget -selected Date will be visually Highlighted
> > > with in the Calendar -
> > > However Screen reader is not announcing the Date selection status.
> > > Please see the behavior below.
> > > I. JAWS18 with IE 11:
> > > - Pressing Enter/Space Bar (Date visually highlighted)
> > > JAWS did not announced anything.
> > > - Using Arrow keys (over the Date visually highlighted)
> > > JAWS did not announced anything.
> > >
> > > II. VDA 2017.3 with Firefox 50:
> > > - Pressing Enter/Space Bar (Date visually highlighted) NVDA 2017.3 did
> > > not announced anything.
> > > - Using Arrow keys (over the Date visually highlighted) NVDA 2017.3
> > > announced as Highlighted date as - 'Selected.
> > > For example: On Arrow key navigation NVDA announced as 8 Sept 2017 Selected
> > > 1. Is there any Screen reader /Browser limitation to update the
> > > Date status with respect to ARIA
> > > 2. To make the Date status accessible with in Calendar widget (with
> > > Grid Role) what would be the solution
> > > Request your support in this regards.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > " Have a fantastic day "ahead"
> > >
> > > Ajeesh Chacko Thomas,
> > > senior Accessibility Test Engineer,
> > > IBM India, Banglore,
> > > Mob: 0 81233 81222,Lan: 04742586821, Office: 04443423000
> > > skipe: ajeeshthomas86
> > >
> > > 'So many things are possible, as long as you don't know they are impossible.-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and/or
> > proprietary to Capital One and/or its affiliates and may only be used
> > solely in performance of work or services for Capital One. The
> > information transmitted herewith is intended only for use by the
> > individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this
> > message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
> > review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use
> > of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information is strictly
> > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please
> > contact the sender and delete the material from your computer.
> > > > > > > > > > > >