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From: Sumit Patel
Date: Wed, Oct 16 2024 12:56AM
Subject: 1.2.3 WCAG
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*Hai all*,
I am writing to request clarification regarding Success Criterion 1.2.3
Audio Description or Media Alternative of the Web Content Accessibility
Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0.
While I believe I have a clear understanding of the audio description
component of this criterion, I would like to confirm the following:
- Audio Description Requirement: Audio description is necessary when
important information is conveyed on the screen but not in the main audio
track. Is this interpretation correct?
I am also seeking clarification on the text alternative aspect of this
criterion. Specifically, I would like to know if a video with an audio
track should always have a text transcript, regardless of whether the audio
track includes all essential information.
Could you please provide more insight into the requirements for text
transcripts in such scenarios? Your guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.
Regards,
Sumit.
From: L Snider
Date: Wed, Oct 16 2024 8:53AM
Subject: Re: 1.2.3 WCAG
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For people who are fully Deaf-Blind, the only way they can access the
content is through a text transcript (whether WCAG requires it or not, I go
beyond WCAG). That transcript should also include the audio description
parts as well.
Cheers
Lisa
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:57 AM Sumit Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> *Hai all*,
>
> I am writing to request clarification regarding Success Criterion 1.2.3
> Audio Description or Media Alternative of the Web Content Accessibility
> Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0.
>
> While I believe I have a clear understanding of the audio description
> component of this criterion, I would like to confirm the following:
>
> - Audio Description Requirement: Audio description is necessary when
> important information is conveyed on the screen but not in the main
> audio
> track. Is this interpretation correct?
>
> I am also seeking clarification on the text alternative aspect of this
> criterion. Specifically, I would like to know if a video with an audio
> track should always have a text transcript, regardless of whether the audio
> track includes all essential information.
>
> Could you please provide more insight into the requirements for text
> transcripts in such scenarios? Your guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sumit.
> > > > >
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Wed, Oct 16 2024 9:42AM
Subject: Re: 1.2.3 WCAG
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The note attached to 1.2.3 and 1.2.5 encourages use of audio description in
place of a text transcript for videos with meaningful audio and onscreen
content that is not part of the audio.
I have filed an issue to have this note modified or removed as it goes
against the spirit of maximum accessibility for maximum number of people,
especially considering that audio description has no use for deafblind
people:
https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/4072
From: Geethavani.Shamanna
Date: Wed, Oct 16 2024 10:12AM
Subject: Re: 1.2.3 WCAG
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I completely agree with this recommendation.
We recently had two short videos with on-screen text that wasn't included in the video script and was therefore not part of the videos' audio. We had to recommend adding audio description in order to ensure conformance with SC 1.2.5, while a more complete transcript that also contained the on-screen text would have sufficed.
From: Kevin Prince
Date: Mon, Oct 28 2024 9:37PM
Subject: Re: 1.2.3 WCAG
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Just a note on terminology - fully deafblind implies that there is only one way to be deafblind. Please remember it is a spectrum from Profoundly Deaf to some hearing loss combined with total lack of sight to low vision. The combined impairment, wherever on those two lines is deafblind. Some deafblind users will benefit from captions, others require the transcript which they access through a braille display.
It's, as ever, all about options.
Kevin Prince, President Deafblind Association New Zealand.
Accessibility Consultant
Access Advisors
Phone: +64212220638
Web: https://accessadvisors.nz/
If you have any access needs consider joining our research panel where you can be paid to help improve digital accessibility in New Zealand.
I work flexibly and am sending this message now because it suits my work schedule. However I don't anticipate that you will read, respond to or action it outside of your regular working hours.
From: L Snider
Date: Tue, Oct 29 2024 4:36AM
Subject: Re: 1.2.3 WCAG
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Hi Kevin,
Thanks for adding this, it was an important addition. I work with a couple
of people who are Deaf-Blind, and they have different levels of sight and
hearing. I used that phrase only in this context to note that text
transcripts need to include AD (as well as in voice). So I am glad you
added more to it.
It is interesting about terminology! We use the term Deaf-Blind in Canada,
and disability is used instead of the term impairment (unless a person says
it for themselves).
Cheers
Lisa
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 12:37 AM Kevin Prince <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Just a note on terminology - fully deafblind implies that there is only
> one way to be deafblind. Please remember it is a spectrum from Profoundly
> Deaf to some hearing loss combined with total lack of sight to low vision.
> The combined impairment, wherever on those two lines is deafblind. Some
> deafblind users will benefit from captions, others require the transcript
> which they access through a braille display.
>
> It's, as ever, all about options.
>
> Kevin Prince, President Deafblind Association New Zealand.
> Accessibility Consultant
> Access Advisors
>
> Phone: +64212220638
> Web: https://accessadvisors.nz/
>
>
>
> If you have any access needs consider joining our research panel where you
> can be paid to help improve digital accessibility in New Zealand.
>
> I work flexibly and am sending this message now because it suits my work
> schedule. However I don't anticipate that you will read, respond to or
> action it outside of your regular working hours.
>
From: L Snider
Date: Tue, Oct 29 2024 2:04PM
Subject: Re: 1.2.3 WCAG
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Hi Kevin,
Thanks for adding this, it was an important addition. I work with a couple
of people who are Deaf-Blind, and they have different levels of sight and
hearing. I used that phrase only in this context to note that text
transcripts need to include AD (as well as in voice). So I am glad you
added more to it.
It is interesting about terminology! We use the term Deaf-Blind in Canada,
and disability is used instead of the term impairment (unless a person says
it for themselves).
Cheers
Lisa
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 7:36 AM L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Thanks for adding this, it was an important addition. I work with a couple
> of people who are Deaf-Blind, and they have different levels of sight and
> hearing. I used that phrase only in this context to note that text
> transcripts need to include AD (as well as in voice). So I am glad you
> added more to it.
>
> It is interesting about terminology! We use the term Deaf-Blind in Canada,
> and disability is used instead of the term impairment (unless a person says
> it for themselves).
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 12:37 AM Kevin Prince <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Just a note on terminology - fully deafblind implies that there is only
>> one way to be deafblind. Please remember it is a spectrum from Profoundly
>> Deaf to some hearing loss combined with total lack of sight to low vision.
>> The combined impairment, wherever on those two lines is deafblind. Some
>> deafblind users will benefit from captions, others require the transcript
>> which they access through a braille display.
>>
>> It's, as ever, all about options.
>>
>> Kevin Prince, President Deafblind Association New Zealand.
>> Accessibility Consultant
>> Access Advisors
>>
>> Phone: +64212220638
>> Web: https://accessadvisors.nz/
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have any access needs consider joining our research panel where
>> you can be paid to help improve digital accessibility in New Zealand.
>>
>> I work flexibly and am sending this message now because it suits my work
>> schedule. However I don't anticipate that you will read, respond to or
>> action it outside of your regular working hours.
>>