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From: Sumit Patel
Date: Thu, Mar 11 2021 10:07AM
Subject: SCs in certail scenarios
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Hi experts,

I have a query regarding which success criterias we need to fail in
certain scenarios. Please help me to end my confusions on this.

Scenario 1:
when screen reader users navigate using arrow keys, screen reader is
skipping a whole paragraph. focus is directly going from previous para
to next para.

Scenario 2:
in a model overlay, the first element is Done button. below contents
have provided. when screen reader users navigate using down arrow key,
focus is not going to the content. seems like it trapped in Done
button. But, tab focus is going to the links in the overlay. the
problem is only with arrow key navigation.

Scenario 3:
In the model overlay, when they navigate using Tab key, focus is going
to the parent page. not looping inside the overlay.

Usually I tend to fail it under
Scenario 1 - 1.3.1 Info and relationship
scenario 2 - 1.3.1 & 2.1.1 Keyboard trap
Scenario 3 - 2.4.3 focus order

Thought to understand what I am doing is correct or not.

Thanks in advance.


Regards,
Sumit

From: glen walker
Date: Thu, Mar 11 2021 2:48PM
Subject: Re: SCs in certail scenarios
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Scenario 1 - It sounds like there might be an aria-hidden on the paragraph
that is being skipped. I would use 1.3.2
Scenario 2 - Using down arrow is a keyboard trap but using tab is not?
That might also be an aria-hidden issue. I would use 1.3.2 again.
Scenario 3 - Agreed, focus order 2.4.3

Just my personal preference.

Glen



On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:08 AM Sumit Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hi experts,
>
> I have a query regarding which success criterias we need to fail in
> certain scenarios. Please help me to end my confusions on this.
>
> Scenario 1:
> when screen reader users navigate using arrow keys, screen reader is
> skipping a whole paragraph. focus is directly going from previous para
> to next para.
>
> Scenario 2:
> in a model overlay, the first element is Done button. below contents
> have provided. when screen reader users navigate using down arrow key,
> focus is not going to the content. seems like it trapped in Done
> button. But, tab focus is going to the links in the overlay. the
> problem is only with arrow key navigation.
>
> Scenario 3:
> In the model overlay, when they navigate using Tab key, focus is going
> to the parent page. not looping inside the overlay.
>
> Usually I tend to fail it under
> Scenario 1 - 1.3.1 Info and relationship
> scenario 2 - 1.3.1 & 2.1.1 Keyboard trap
> Scenario 3 - 2.4.3 focus order
>
> Thought to understand what I am doing is correct or not.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sumit
> > > > >

From: Sumit Patel
Date: Thu, Mar 11 2021 11:17PM
Subject: Re: SCs in certail scenarios
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Here is my doubt. We are not even able to read the content. How can
we test the meaningful sequence of this content?

On 12/03/2021, glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Scenario 1 - It sounds like there might be an aria-hidden on the paragraph
> that is being skipped. I would use 1.3.2
> Scenario 2 - Using down arrow is a keyboard trap but using tab is not?
> That might also be an aria-hidden issue. I would use 1.3.2 again.
> Scenario 3 - Agreed, focus order 2.4.3
>
> Just my personal preference.
>
> Glen
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:08 AM Sumit Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Hi experts,
>>
>> I have a query regarding which success criterias we need to fail in
>> certain scenarios. Please help me to end my confusions on this.
>>
>> Scenario 1:
>> when screen reader users navigate using arrow keys, screen reader is
>> skipping a whole paragraph. focus is directly going from previous para
>> to next para.
>>
>> Scenario 2:
>> in a model overlay, the first element is Done button. below contents
>> have provided. when screen reader users navigate using down arrow key,
>> focus is not going to the content. seems like it trapped in Done
>> button. But, tab focus is going to the links in the overlay. the
>> problem is only with arrow key navigation.
>>
>> Scenario 3:
>> In the model overlay, when they navigate using Tab key, focus is going
>> to the parent page. not looping inside the overlay.
>>
>> Usually I tend to fail it under
>> Scenario 1 - 1.3.1 Info and relationship
>> scenario 2 - 1.3.1 & 2.1.1 Keyboard trap
>> Scenario 3 - 2.4.3 focus order
>>
>> Thought to understand what I am doing is correct or not.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sumit
>> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >

From: glen walker
Date: Thu, Mar 11 2021 11:38PM
Subject: Re: SCs in certail scenarios
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That's the point. If it's aria-hidden, it won't be in the reading order,
thus failing meaningful sequence.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 11:17 PM Sumit Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Here is my doubt. We are not even able to read the content. How can
> we test the meaningful sequence of this content?
>
>

From: Sumit Patel
Date: Thu, Mar 11 2021 11:45PM
Subject: Re: SCs in certail scenarios
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Ok. Could you provide any supporting document or link for that. I t
would be very helpful.

On 12/03/2021, glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> That's the point. If it's aria-hidden, it won't be in the reading order,
> thus failing meaningful sequence.
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 11:17 PM Sumit Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Here is my doubt. We are not even able to read the content. How can
>> we test the meaningful sequence of this content?
>>
>>
> > > > >

From: glen walker
Date: Thu, Mar 11 2021 11:54PM
Subject: Re: SCs in certail scenarios
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/meaningful-sequence.html

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 11:45 PM Sumit Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Ok. Could you provide any supporting document or link for that. I t
> would be very helpful.
>
>

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Fri, Mar 12 2021 7:19AM
Subject: Re: SCs in certail scenarios
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I agree with you that non-interactive content that is hidden from screen readers would likely fall under SC 1.3.1 Info and Relationships. It's presentation that is not communicate in text or programmatically in a way that is accessibility supported.

Jonathan

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Hi experts,

I have a query regarding which success criterias we need to fail in certain scenarios. Please help me to end my confusions on this.

Scenario 1:
when screen reader users navigate using arrow keys, screen reader is skipping a whole paragraph. focus is directly going from previous para to next para.

Scenario 2:
in a model overlay, the first element is Done button. below contents have provided. when screen reader users navigate using down arrow key, focus is not going to the content. seems like it trapped in Done button. But, tab focus is going to the links in the overlay. the problem is only with arrow key navigation.

Scenario 3:
In the model overlay, when they navigate using Tab key, focus is going to the parent page. not looping inside the overlay.

Usually I tend to fail it under
Scenario 1 - 1.3.1 Info and relationship scenario 2 - 1.3.1 & 2.1.1 Keyboard trap Scenario 3 - 2.4.3 focus order

Thought to understand what I am doing is correct or not.

Thanks in advance.


Regards,
Sumit