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From: glen walker
Date: Wed, Feb 22 2023 1:40PM
Subject: "Loading NVDA. Please wait."
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This has always bugged me but I've never looked into it. When you start
NVDA, it says ""Loading NVDA. Please wait."

But it never tells me when it's done loading. I am waiting patiently, as
instructed, but how patient should I be?

If something is telling me it's loading, shouldn't it tell me when it's
done loading?

I usually just wait a second or two then start navigating through the
webpage and assume NVDA is done (which is usually confirmed by NVDA telling
me about the elements I'm navigating to).

From: Steve Green
Date: Wed, Feb 22 2023 1:54PM
Subject: Re: "Loading NVDA. Please wait."
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Yes it should. We apply the same reasoning to ARIA live regions. If we have one to announce "Please wait" or "Loading", we have another to announce "Please continue" or "Loading complete" or whatever.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd


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Subject: [WebAIM] "Loading NVDA. Please wait."

This has always bugged me but I've never looked into it. When you start NVDA, it says ""Loading NVDA. Please wait."

But it never tells me when it's done loading. I am waiting patiently, as instructed, but how patient should I be?

If something is telling me it's loading, shouldn't it tell me when it's done loading?

I usually just wait a second or two then start navigating through the webpage and assume NVDA is done (which is usually confirmed by NVDA telling me about the elements I'm navigating to).

From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Wed, Feb 22 2023 8:11PM
Subject: Re: "Loading NVDA. Please wait."
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On 22/02/2023 20:40, glen walker wrote:
> This has always bugged me but I've never looked into it. When you start
> NVDA, it says ""Loading NVDA. Please wait."
>
> But it never tells me when it's done loading. I am waiting patiently, as
> instructed, but how patient should I be?

Suggest filing an issue/request https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

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From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Thu, Feb 23 2023 4:46AM
Subject: Re: "Loading NVDA. Please wait."
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When I load NVDA, from its hotkey alt-control-n I get four ascending tones, in sound, then it says taskbar, or desktop, depending on where I am placed -- so I know it is loaded. Likewise when I stop it, NVDA-q I hear four descending tones, and it is gone.

Dave



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On 22/02/2023 20:40, glen walker wrote:
> This has always bugged me but I've never looked into it. When you
> start NVDA, it says ""Loading NVDA. Please wait."
>
> But it never tells me when it's done loading. I am waiting patiently,
> as instructed, but how patient should I be?

Suggest filing an issue/request https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fnvaccess%2Fnvda%2Fissues&data%7C01%7Cdavid.b.andrews%40state.mn.us%7Cb84648bc250d4ba6a26308db154bbf0a%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C638127187872780922%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hDD7GxwcdOBzCUsLh9sZyUqxOOpjYqhDj5coBMRpLBE%3D&reserved=0

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From: Geethavani.Shamanna
Date: Thu, Feb 23 2023 5:00AM
Subject: Re: "Loading NVDA. Please wait."
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This has been my experience as well. Although NVDA does not explicitly state that it is done loading, by announcing 'Taskbar' or something similar, it does indicate that it has fully loaded.

Most aria live regions that I have come across never announce 'please continue' after 'please wait'.

Geetha

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When I load NVDA, from its hotkey alt-control-n I get four ascending tones, in sound, then it says taskbar, or desktop, depending on where I am placed -- so I know it is loaded. Likewise when I stop it, NVDA-q I hear four descending tones, and it is gone.

Dave



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On 22/02/2023 20:40, glen walker wrote:
> This has always bugged me but I've never looked into it. When you
> start NVDA, it says ""Loading NVDA. Please wait."
>
> But it never tells me when it's done loading. I am waiting patiently,
> as instructed, but how patient should I be?

Suggest filing an issue/request https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fnvaccess%2Fnvda%2Fissues&data%7C01%7Cgeethavani.shamanna%40open.ac.uk%7Ce4420cb32d5348a0b92208db1593a325%7C0e2ed45596af4100bed3a8e5fd981685%7C0%7C0%7C638127496061329114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdataâynh4VKqdaMxs2o3ZOIUhkcYWS1h%2Bmg49mutAWMnNI%3D&reserved=0

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From: glen walker
Date: Thu, Feb 23 2023 9:25AM
Subject: Re: "Loading NVDA. Please wait."
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Yes, I get the piano tunes when loading. After the piano tunes is when I
hear "loading". You didn't mention hearing that so I'm guessing some
people don't get the "loading" message?

I used to hear "taskbar" after a few seconds, sort of indicating it was
done loading, but I haven't heard that for a long time now. Perhaps the
version changed or maybe it depends how you start it, the hotkey versus the
Windows start menu. Sometimes I start with the speech viewer automatically
opened and sometimes I don't but I haven't noticed if that affects hearing
"taskbar".

From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Thu, Feb 23 2023 10:22AM
Subject: Re: "Loading NVDA. Please wait."
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No, after I hear the notes, it seems to be loaded.

Dave



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Yes, I get the piano tunes when loading. After the piano tunes is when I hear "loading". You didn't mention hearing that so I'm guessing some people don't get the "loading" message?

I used to hear "taskbar" after a few seconds, sort of indicating it was done loading, but I haven't heard that for a long time now. Perhaps the version changed or maybe it depends how you start it, the hotkey versus the Windows start menu. Sometimes I start with the speech viewer automatically opened and sometimes I don't but I haven't noticed if that affects hearing "taskbar".

From: tim.harshbarger@deque.com
Date: Thu, Feb 23 2023 11:09AM
Subject: Re: "Loading NVDA. Please wait."
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I just tried and I am unable to get it to say "loading" no matter how I try to start NVDA. I just get the ascending scale when I start NVDA. I tried starting it with the shortcut, using the keyboard shortcut (which should be the same thing), starting up NVDA with the run dialog, and using the start menu.

I am using the latest version if that makes a difference.

Thanks!
Tim
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No, after I hear the notes, it seems to be loaded.

Dave



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Yes, I get the piano tunes when loading. After the piano tunes is when I hear "loading". You didn't mention hearing that so I'm guessing some people don't get the "loading" message?

I used to hear "taskbar" after a few seconds, sort of indicating it was done loading, but I haven't heard that for a long time now. Perhaps the version changed or maybe it depends how you start it, the hotkey versus the Windows start menu. Sometimes I start with the speech viewer automatically opened and sometimes I don't but I haven't noticed if that affects hearing "taskbar".