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From: Lori K. Brown
Date: Fri, Feb 07 2003 12:58PM
Subject: Re: Bordered Table in Netscape 4.7
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Laurie --
Tables don't accept CSS styling very well or very consistently in
Netscape 4.7x. Before I understood this, I spent at least 40 hours on
the kind of problem you are working on here. Don't. Do. It.
When I absolutely HAVE to have a certain look on a table, I use all
the bad old attribute controls, which work, but are not CSS, and
upset
the perfect coding people. And you cannot ever get rid of that ugly
bevel on table borders, which is truly painful.
YOu could probably use some insane combination of divs with single
pixel borders and the table for the data, but it's perversely
complicated for such a simple purpose.
The better answer is to tell this person that writing modern XHTML
and
CSS based pages means either 1) browser-switching to a lobotomized
version of your pages for Netscape, or 2) choosing not to care what
things look like in Netscape 4.7x. When one doesn't have the option
of
blowing off NN 4.7x, do #1. When you do, do #2.
Lori Kay Brown
User Interface Engineer
SiteScape, Inc.
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From: Laurie Davis-Covin
Date: Mon, Feb 10 2003 12:20PM
Subject: Re: Bordered Table in Netscape 4.7
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I hear you!
Did you see what Terence came up with?
At 03:36 PM 2/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Laurie --
>
>Tables don't accept CSS styling very well or very consistently in
>Netscape 4.7x. Before I understood this, I spent at least 40 hours on
>the kind of problem you are working on here. Don't. Do. It.
>
>When I absolutely HAVE to have a certain look on a table, I use all
>the bad old attribute controls, which work, but are not CSS, and
>upset
>the perfect coding people. And you cannot ever get rid of that ugly
>bevel on table borders, which is truly painful.
>
>YOu could probably use some insane combination of divs with single
>pixel borders and the table for the data, but it's perversely
>complicated for such a simple purpose.
>
>The better answer is to tell this person that writing modern XHTML
>and
>CSS based pages means either 1) browser-switching to a lobotomized
>version of your pages for Netscape, or 2) choosing not to care what
>things look like in Netscape 4.7x. When one doesn't have the option
>of
>blowing off NN 4.7x, do #1. When you do, do #2.
>
>
>Lori Kay Brown
>User Interface Engineer
>SiteScape, Inc.
>E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
>
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From: Ali Naito
Date: Mon, Feb 10 2003 1:12PM
Subject: Re: Bordered Table in Netscape 4.7
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we do this all the time... 2 nested tables...
table black background cellspacing 0, cellpadding 0, border 0
in the first td put your second table (the data table)
table no background color cellspacing 1(very thin lines) 2 or so should get
you what you're looking for, cellpadding whatever you like, border 0
you have to color in ALL tr or td's though. Even white/default ones.
and example can be found at:
http://southwest.ojp.gov/
-Ali Naito
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From: "Laurie Davis-Covin" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Bordered Table in Netscape 4.7
> I hear you!
> Did you see what Terence came up with?
>
> At 03:36 PM 2/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Laurie --
> >
> >Tables don't accept CSS styling very well or very consistently in
> >Netscape 4.7x. Before I understood this, I spent at least 40 hours on
> >the kind of problem you are working on here. Don't. Do. It.
> >
> >When I absolutely HAVE to have a certain look on a table, I use all
> >the bad old attribute controls, which work, but are not CSS, and
> >upset
> >the perfect coding people. And you cannot ever get rid of that ugly
> >bevel on table borders, which is truly painful.
> >
> >YOu could probably use some insane combination of divs with single
> >pixel borders and the table for the data, but it's perversely
> >complicated for such a simple purpose.
> >
> >The better answer is to tell this person that writing modern XHTML
> >and
> >CSS based pages means either 1) browser-switching to a lobotomized
> >version of your pages for Netscape, or 2) choosing not to care what
> >things look like in Netscape 4.7x. When one doesn't have the option
> >of
> >blowing off NN 4.7x, do #1. When you do, do #2.
> >
> >
> >Lori Kay Brown
> >User Interface Engineer
> >SiteScape, Inc.
> >E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> >
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> Laurie Davis-Covin, Writer/Editor
> National Institute of Standards and Technology
> 100 Bureau Drive
> Admin. Building, Room E 220
> Gaithersburg, MD 20899
> Ph: 301-975-8027
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