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From: julian.rickards@ndm.gov.on.ca
Date: Tue, Aug 05 2003 6:50AM
Subject: RE: Bobby Approved
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I know that some professional web developers will only provide a Photoshop
mockup to their clients so that their clients can't steal the webpages and
continue to develop them without paying the original designer. I don't know
if that is where you are coming from - in that case, you can't really
provide a mockup that is accessible. If that is not your concern, why not
create a page and prove its accessibility with Bobby.

The other possibility is just to simply state that you understand the WCAG
and know how to apply it and when the work is done, the page(s) will have
valid Bobby logos on them.

Jules

> With a bobby approved logo, it seems fine to me apart from
> missing Doctype
> and other Valid HTML/CSS issues. It wont let me test it online either.
>
> Since I cannot actually send them a site we have built that
> will pass the
> bobby online test how do we go about saying/showing them that we can.


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From: Ben Morrison
Date: Tue, Aug 05 2003 7:00AM
Subject: Re: Bobby Approved
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On 5/8/03 1:42 pm, " = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = "
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I know that some professional web developers will only provide a Photoshop
> mockup to their clients so that their clients can't steal the webpages and
> continue to develop them without paying the original designer. I don't know
> if that is where you are coming from - in that case, you can't really
> provide a mockup that is accessible. If that is not your concern, why not
> create a page and prove its accessibility with Bobby.
>

Luckily that isnt our problem.
> The other possibility is just to simply state that you understand the WCAG
> and know how to apply it and when the work is done, the page(s) will have
> valid Bobby logos on them.
>
> Jules

Ive decided to look at an existing website we have and make it bobby
approved - its a bit of a pain as the site was built with tables for layout
etc, so im having to add summary="", which seems to pass the bobby test like
alt="" also does for spacer images.

For this example I'll just make the online test work - which to me isnt
really about accesible websites but will solve the problem at hand.

Ben



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From: Michael Burks
Date: Tue, Aug 05 2003 7:32AM
Subject: RE: Bobby Approved
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You might try Cynthia Says...

www.cynthiasays.com

Sincerely,

Mike Burks

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From: Ben Morrison [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:57 AM
To: webaim
Subject: Re: Bobby Approved


On 5/8/03 1:42 pm, " = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = "
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I know that some professional web developers will only provide a
> Photoshop mockup to their clients so that their clients can't steal
> the webpages and continue to develop them without paying the original
> designer. I don't know if that is where you are coming from - in that
> case, you can't really provide a mockup that is accessible. If that is

> not your concern, why not create a page and prove its accessibility
> with Bobby.
>

Luckily that isnt our problem.
> The other possibility is just to simply state that you understand the
> WCAG and know how to apply it and when the work is done, the page(s)
> will have valid Bobby logos on them.
>
> Jules

Ive decided to look at an existing website we have and make it bobby
approved - its a bit of a pain as the site was built with tables for
layout etc, so im having to add summary="", which seems to pass the
bobby test like alt="" also does for spacer images.

For this example I'll just make the online test work - which to me isnt
really about accesible websites but will solve the problem at hand.

Ben



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From: John Britsios
Date: Tue, Aug 05 2003 8:15AM
Subject: Re: Bobby Approved
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I would suggest that you write and post an accessibility policy on your
site, adding a link at the bottom of your page.

A woderfull example may be found on the 14th Chapter of the book of Joe
Clark, under the undertitle "Writing and posting the policy" which is also
online::

http://www.joeclark.org/book/sashay/serialization/Chapter14.html

I am also aware of this problem with Bobby, so I would recommend you to try
another validator company as UsableNet or other, who provide unlimited free
evaluations and logos for your page.

I personally use the logos of W3C/WAI.

John

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From: "Ben Morrison" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: Bobby Approved


> On 5/8/03 1:42 pm, " = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = "
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > I know that some professional web developers will only provide a
Photoshop
> > mockup to their clients so that their clients can't steal the webpages
and
> > continue to develop them without paying the original designer. I don't
know
> > if that is where you are coming from - in that case, you can't really
> > provide a mockup that is accessible. If that is not your concern, why
not
> > create a page and prove its accessibility with Bobby.
> >
>
> Luckily that isnt our problem.
> > The other possibility is just to simply state that you understand the
WCAG
> > and know how to apply it and when the work is done, the page(s) will
have
> > valid Bobby logos on them.
> >
> > Jules
>
> Ive decided to look at an existing website we have and make it bobby
> approved - its a bit of a pain as the site was built with tables for
layout
> etc, so im having to add summary="", which seems to pass the bobby test
like
> alt="" also does for spacer images.
>
> For this example I'll just make the online test work - which to me isnt
> really about accesible websites but will solve the problem at hand.
>
> Ben
>
>
>
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