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From: Cheryl Kirkpatrick
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2003 2:51PM
Subject: using real sites as demos
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I recently created an online demo of JAWS reading three Web pages to use
for workshops and speaking engagements.
http://www.state.sc.us/scsl/access/demos/

These are real Web pages that I ran across. Does anyone see any problem
with using real pages? I saw these as open to the public and my use
being equivalent to that of a restaurant or movie critic. However, it
seems I remember that WebAIM once had a copy of Amazon.com's Web page
and then the same page in an accessible version and they had to remove
it.

Does anyone know if it is acceptable to use real Web pages in this
manner?

Thanks,


Cheryl Kirkpatrick
Web Administrator
South Carolina State Library
http://www.state.sc.us/scsl/
Telephone: 803.734.5831

Excellence can be attained if you care more than others think is wise,
risk more than others think is safe, dream more than others think is
practical, and expect more than others think is possible.

From: Sarah Brainard
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2003 3:01PM
Subject: Re: using real sites as demos
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>> Does anyone know if it is acceptable to use real Web pages in this
manner? <<

I dont know that there are any "rules" that state you cannot or can, but I
would say, just email someone and ask them, if it is a problem, they will
let you know. Most people I end up linking to in one way or another likes
it and apprecitates the hits it creates!

Just be polite and ask! :)

Sarah Brainard
New Media Manager
Bluemark, LLC


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From: chris
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2003 4:03PM
Subject: RE: using real sites as demos
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I would guess that if you are not changing the pages in any way (i.e.
creating a derivative work) that it would be fine. I'm not a lawyer, so
that's just an intuitive guess. Particularly, I think that educational
institutions have broader "fair use".

-chris

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--> I recently created an online demo of JAWS reading three Web
--> pages to use
--> for workshops and speaking engagements.
--> http://www.state.sc.us/scsl/access/demos/
-->
--> These are real Web pages that I ran across. Does anyone see
--> any problem
--> with using real pages? I saw these as open to the public and my use
--> being equivalent to that of a restaurant or movie critic.
--> However, it
--> seems I remember that WebAIM once had a copy of
--> Amazon.com's Web page
--> and then the same page in an accessible version and they
--> had to remove
--> it.
-->
--> Does anyone know if it is acceptable to use real Web pages in this
--> manner?
-->
--> Thanks,
-->
-->
--> Cheryl Kirkpatrick
--> Web Administrator
--> South Carolina State Library
--> http://www.state.sc.us/scsl/
--> Telephone: 803.734.5831
-->
--> Excellence can be attained if you care more than others
--> think is wise,
--> risk more than others think is safe, dream more than others think is
--> practical, and expect more than others think is possible. - Unknown
-->
-->
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