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From: jbastow@westpac.com.au
Date: Mon, Feb 09 2004 11:51PM
Subject: JAWS and Labels
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Hi All...
The company I work for has just begun to explore addressing our site's
chronic accessibility flaws. As a proof of concept for a full blown
conversion, we are attempting to massage some of our web forms into a more
accessible format, but have run into a problem when reading one of the
forms with JAWS.
Background:
The form in question uses JavaScript validation on submission. Error
feedback is provided by inserting a meaningful error message for each
field in error into a DIV layer at the top of the form. Each error
message inserted is formatted as a link that throws focus into the field
in question.
So, the short of it is that if you fill out the form and there are errors
in the input you will be returned to the same form, but with a list of
links to the fields in error inserted at the top of the form.
Problem:
When the user selects one of these "error links" the focus jumps to the
field in question, but JAWS reads the field label twice in succession
instead of just once. We have followed all the recommendations regarding
use of labels and have used label tags with the 'for' attribute set to
match the field name, etc. and when tabbing normally through the fields
JAWS reads the labels only once, so we are quite perplexed.
If anyone out there is able to shed some light on this situation it would
be much appreciated.
Cheers...
Jon Bastow
Internet Services
Westpac Banking Corporation
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From: Sandy Clark
Date: Tue, Feb 10 2004 9:05AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Labels
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the for="" should match the id="" in a label, not the name attribute.
Remember that id attributes are case sensitive and should not contain
spaces.
HTH
Sandra Clark
http://www.shayna.com/blog
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Subject: JAWS and Labels
Hi All...
The company I work for has just begun to explore addressing our site's
chronic accessibility flaws. As a proof of concept for a full blown
conversion, we are attempting to massage some of our web forms into a more
accessible format, but have run into a problem when reading one of the forms
with JAWS.
Background:
The form in question uses JavaScript validation on submission. Error
feedback is provided by inserting a meaningful error message for each field
in error into a DIV layer at the top of the form. Each error message
inserted is formatted as a link that throws focus into the field in
question.
So, the short of it is that if you fill out the form and there are errors in
the input you will be returned to the same form, but with a list of links to
the fields in error inserted at the top of the form.
Problem:
When the user selects one of these "error links" the focus jumps to the
field in question, but JAWS reads the field label twice in succession
instead of just once. We have followed all the recommendations regarding
use of labels and have used label tags with the 'for' attribute set to match
the field name, etc. and when tabbing normally through the fields JAWS reads
the labels only once, so we are quite perplexed.
If anyone out there is able to shed some light on this situation it would be
much appreciated.
Cheers...
Jon Bastow
Internet Services
Westpac Banking Corporation
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From: julian.rickards@ndm.gov.on.ca
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2004 5:54AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Labels
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Not related to your question but for the <input> you have an incorrect
format of style, you have style="width=150px" whereas it should be
style="width: 150px".
Sorry, can't help you with your primary question.
Wait a sec. Are you throwing focus to the label or the input? Perhaps try
throwing the focus to the input?
Just an idea.
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Subject: JAWS and Labels
Hi All...
Oops...my bad. We do have the Label tags' 'for' attributes set to match the
'ID' attributes of the corresponding fields. We more have a problem with
JAWS doing too much (i.e. reading each field label twice) rather than too
little (i.e. not reading anything at all).
In case it makes my garbled verbal description any clearer, here is a code
example of the link/field style we are using:
<A HREF='javascript:document.forms[0].elements["firstName"].focus()'
CLASS='ValidationMessage'>First name - please provide details.</A>
<TR VALIGN=top>
<TD WIDTH="570" VALIGN=middle>
<LABEL for="CreditCardNo"><img
src="/images/ss_spacerdot.gif" width="0" height="0" alt="mandatory">Credit
card number:</LABEL>
</TD>
</TR>
<TR VALIGN=top>
<TD WIDTH="570" VALIGN=middle>
<INPUT NAME="p1CreditCardNo" VALUE="" maxlength=16
onBlur="this.value = allTrim(this.value);" ID="CreditCardNo"
CLASS="formsFieldText" STYLE="width=150px">
</TD>
</TR>
As I noted earlier, JAWS for some reason is insisting on reading the given
label twice when focus is thrown to such a field, i.e. it says "Credit card
number colon...Credit card number colon".
Any further comments would be greatly appreciated as I am getting some
pressure over not being able to resolve such a simple issue quickly,
although I can't help but think that what we are trying to do is possibly
confusing JAWS a little bit. A lot of what I am reading online suggests
that, in consideration of screen-reader users, you shouldn't throw the focus
around, etc.. Unfortunately this is the way our style gurus want this set
up, so I am even prepared to look at dirty workarounds if required.
Cheers...
Jon Bastow
Internet Services
Westpac Banking Corporation
Mobile: 0425 259 571
Phone: (02) 9260 [2] 6078
Fax: (02) 9260 [2] 6593
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