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From: Jean-Michel Brevelle
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2004 12:42PM
Subject: Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility
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Can anyone suggest a link where I could learn about techniques to make
online registration and subscription forms both safe from autospammers and
accessible to all human users? The current host of the web site that needs
this enhancement does not support active server pages, so .asp techniques
won't be helpful.

Thanks!

Jean-Michel Brevelle
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From: julian.rickards@ndm.gov.on.ca
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2004 1:52PM
Subject: Re: Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility
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Does your hosting service support any server side languages such as PHP or
Perl?

The form is not the issue but rather the means of delivering the
registration/subscription information and that is best handled using a
server-side script which can then hide the email address from spammers.

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From: jmbrevelle [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]

Can anyone suggest a link where I could learn about techniques to make
online registration and subscription forms both safe from autospammers and
accessible to all human users? The current host of the web site that needs
this enhancement does not support active server pages, so .asp techniques
won't be helpful.

From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2004 2:00PM
Subject: Re: Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility
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Try Matt May's posting on the topic:
http://www.bestkungfu.com/?p=445

AWK


On 6/21/04 3:39 PM, "julian.rickards" wrote:

>
> Does your hosting service support any server side languages such as PHP or
> Perl?
>
> The form is not the issue but rather the means of delivering the
> registration/subscription information and that is best handled using a
> server-side script which can then hide the email address from spammers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jmbrevelle [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>
> Can anyone suggest a link where I could learn about techniques to make
> online registration and subscription forms both safe from autospammers and
> accessible to all human users? The current host of the web site that needs
> this enhancement does not support active server pages, so .asp techniques
> won't be helpful.
>
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>

From: Jean-Michel Brevelle
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2004 2:13PM
Subject: Re: Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility
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<<Does your hosting service support any server side languages such as PHP or
Perl?>>

PHP is not supported. Perl is, but I have no understanding of its use. Also,
this is a FrontPage web, so I have to be mindful of some of the FrontPage
exclusive issues.

Jean-Michel Brevelle
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From: julian.rickards [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 3:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility

-----Original Message-----
From: jmbrevelle [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]

Can anyone suggest a link where I could learn about techniques to make
online registration and subscription forms both safe from autospammers and
accessible to all human users? The current host of the web site that needs
this enhancement does not support active server pages, so .asp techniques
won't be helpful.

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From: julian.rickards@ndm.gov.on.ca
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2004 2:24PM
Subject: Re: Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility
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At Matt's Script Archive is a perl script called formmail.cgi. You can use
this to process the form data and email it to you. However, your hosting
service must allow you to configure this otherwise you may be at a dead end.
Installation and configuration is quite simple. However, if the email
address to which the registration is submitted is in the HTML page, then you
haven't hidden the email address and it would be open for harvesting. Some
hosting services will provide you access to their formmail scripts but you
must put your email address within your HTML form to make it work which
opens it up for harvesting.

HTH,

Jules

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From: jmbrevelle [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility



<<Does your hosting service support any server side languages such as PHP or
Perl?>>

PHP is not supported. Perl is, but I have no understanding of its use. Also,
this is a FrontPage web, so I have to be mindful of some of the FrontPage
exclusive issues.

Jean-Michel Brevelle
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**All outgoing mail is scanned using Norton Anti-Virus 2002 to ensure a
virus-free transmission **

-----Original Message-----
From: julian.rickards [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 3:39 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility

-----Original Message-----
From: jmbrevelle [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]

Can anyone suggest a link where I could learn about techniques to make
online registration and subscription forms both safe from autospammers and
accessible to all human users? The current host of the web site that needs
this enhancement does not support active server pages, so .asp techniques
won't be helpful.

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From: Chris Heilmann
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2004 2:38PM
Subject: Re: Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility
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julian.rickards wrote:

>At Matt's Script Archive is a perl script called formmail.cgi. You can use
>this to process the form data and email it to you. However, your hosting
>service must allow you to configure this otherwise you may be at a dead end.
>Installation and configuration is quite simple. However, if the email
>address to which the registration is submitted is in the HTML page, then you
>haven't hidden the email address and it would be open for harvesting. Some
>hosting services will provide you access to their formmail scripts but you
>must put your email address within your HTML form to make it work which
>opens it up for harvesting.
>
>HTH,
>
>
>
Actually, so does Matt's formmail. According to
http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/about.html Matt's scripts are outdated
and insecure, which is not suprising seeing how old they are. Better to
get a newer version of Formmail from nms.

From: Maximillian Schwanekamp
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2004 3:28PM
Subject: Re: Forms, Phishers, and Accessibility
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their formmail scripts but you
>must put your email address within your HTML form to make it work which
>opens it up for harvesting.

Actually, so does Matt's formmail. According to
http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/about.html Matt's scripts are outdated
and insecure, which is not suprising seeing how old they are. Better to
get a newer version of Formmail from nms.
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Definitely true. Some of my clients' sites get automated probes for Matt's
old formmail script daily.

Maximillian Schwanekamp
Dynamic Websites for Microbusiness
www.NeptuneWebworks.com
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