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From: Glenda
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2004 4:32PM
Subject: Question regarding Canadian ODA
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I sent the following to the
email provided on the ODA site and it bounced back. I'm hoping someone
here knows:

I am preparing a course on
Web accessibility and am including a section on the status of Web accessibility
in Canada. I will include the ODA's clause:

Government internet
sites
6. The Government
of Ontario shall provide its internet sites in a format that is accessible to
persons with disabilities, unless it is not technically feasible to do
so.
I am
wondering if any guidelines or standards have been adopted that specific how to
make websites accessible, as this clause seems rather vague. Does
this clause also cover Government Intranet sites? Thanks,

Glenda Watson
Hyatt
Soaring Eagle
Communications

From: julian.rickards@ndm.gov.on.ca
Date: Thu, Sep 16 2004 8:53AM
Subject: Re: Question regarding Canadian ODA
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It is
my understanding that intranets are supposed to be ODA compliant but our
Management Board has not yet required this.

Off
The Record: There are projects funded by our government for web sites developed
by outside contractors. If the work was done internally, ODA and French Language
translation would be required but if the work is for an external web site, the
government department that is hiring the contractor does not need to enforce
either. This escape clause pisses me off (sorry for the
language).

As to
the ODA email address, the ODA Committee web site was developed by an outside
contractor, perhaps contact her.

Jules
-----------------------------------------------
Julian Rickards A/Digital Publications Distribution
Coordinator Publication Services
Section, Ministry of Northern
Development and Mines, Vox:
705-670-5608 / Fax: 705-670-5960

-----Original Message-----From: glenda
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004
6:36 PMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: [WebAIM]
Question regarding Canadian ODA
I sent the following to
the email provided on the ODA site and it bounced back. I'm hoping
someone here knows:

I am preparing a course
on Web accessibility and am including a section on the status of Web
accessibility in Canada. I will include the ODA's clause:

Government internet
sites
6. The
Government of Ontario shall provide its internet sites in a format that is
accessible to persons with disabilities, unless it is not technically feasible
to do so.
I am
wondering if any guidelines or standards have been adopted that specific how
to make websites accessible, as this clause seems rather vague.
Does this clause also cover Government Intranet sites? Thanks,

Glenda
Watson Hyatt
Soaring
Eagle Communications

From: Glenda
Date: Thu, Sep 16 2004 4:49PM
Subject: Re: Question regarding Canadian ODA
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Hi
Jules,
I understand your frustration. It is as if the
governments write these policies so that they can say "look what we're doing for
people with disabilities", but then they don't implement their own policy.
Its like what is the point? From my understanding, the BC Government is
doing the same thing. We need a big legal case on Web accessibility, not
that the Human Rights Code has much bite. Anyway, assuming the ODA
is followed, do you know how "Web accessibility" is define, ie Priority 1 and 2
or whatever?? For this course I am developing, I am looking for
Canadian examples of what IS being done, hoping to create a need to follow what
others ARE doing. May be easier said than done.
Glenda

-----Original Message-----From: julian.rickards
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Thursday, September 16,
2004 7:53 AMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: Re:
[WebAIM] Question regarding Canadian ODA
It
is my understanding that intranets are supposed to be ODA compliant but our
Management Board has not yet required this.

Off
The Record: There are projects funded by our government for web sites
developed by outside contractors. If the work was done internally, ODA and
French Language translation would be required but if the work is for an
external web site, the government department that is hiring the contractor
does not need to enforce either. This escape clause pisses me off (sorry for
the language).

As
to the ODA email address, the ODA Committee web site was developed by an
outside contractor, perhaps contact her.

Jules
-----------------------------------------------
Julian Rickards A/Digital Publications Distribution
Coordinator Publication Services
Section, Ministry of Northern
Development and Mines, Vox:
705-670-5608 / Fax: 705-670-5960

-----Original Message-----From: glenda
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004
6:36 PMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: [WebAIM]
Question regarding Canadian ODA
I sent the following to
the email provided on the ODA site and it bounced back. I'm hoping
someone here knows:

I am preparing a course
on Web accessibility and am including a section on the status of Web
accessibility in Canada. I will include the ODA's clause:

Government internet
sites
6. The
Government of Ontario shall provide its internet sites in a format that is
accessible to persons with disabilities, unless it is not technically
feasible to do so.
I am
wondering if any guidelines or standards have been adopted that specific how
to make websites accessible, as this clause seems rather vague.
Does this clause also cover Government Intranet sites? Thanks,

Glenda
Watson Hyatt
Soaring
Eagle Communications

From: julian.rickards@ndm.gov.on.ca
Date: Tue, Sep 21 2004 7:03AM
Subject: Re: Question regarding Canadian ODA
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Sorry
for the delay in responding: I was at the TOevolt (<A
href="http://toevolt.org">http://toevolt.org) conference this weekend and
took yesterday off.

Regarding Priority level: I know we were expected to shoot for Priority 2
but I wasn't certain if that was the standard for the Gov't. However, at the
conference, I met the person in charge of setting priority levels for the gov't
and it is 2.

Jules
-----------------------------------------------
Julian Rickards A/Digital Publications Distribution
Coordinator Publication Services
Section, Ministry of Northern
Development and Mines, Vox:
705-670-5608 / Fax: 705-670-5960

-----Original Message-----From: glenda
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004
6:54 PMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: Re: [WebAIM]
Question regarding Canadian ODA
Hi Jules,
I understand your frustration. It is as if the
governments write these policies so that they can say "look what we're doing
for people with disabilities", but then they don't implement their own
policy. Its like what is the point? From my understanding, the BC
Government is doing the same thing. We need a big legal case on Web
accessibility, not that the Human Rights Code has much bite.
Anyway, assuming the ODA is followed, do you know how "Web
accessibility" is define, ie Priority 1 and 2 or whatever?? For
this course I am developing, I am looking for Canadian examples of what IS
being done, hoping to create a need to follow what others ARE doing. May
be easier said than done. Glenda

-----Original Message-----From: julian.rickards
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Thursday, September
16, 2004 7:53 AMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: Re:
[WebAIM] Question regarding Canadian ODA
It
is my understanding that intranets are supposed to be ODA compliant but our
Management Board has not yet required this.

Off The Record: There are projects funded by our government for web
sites developed by outside contractors. If the work was done internally, ODA
and French Language translation would be required but if the work is for an
external web site, the government department that is hiring the contractor
does not need to enforce either. This escape clause pisses me off (sorry for
the language).

As
to the ODA email address, the ODA Committee web site was developed by an
outside contractor, perhaps contact her.

Jules
-----------------------------------------------
Julian Rickards A/Digital Publications Distribution
Coordinator Publication Services
Section, Ministry of Northern
Development and Mines, Vox:
705-670-5608 / Fax: 705-670-5960

-----Original Message-----From: glenda
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Wednesday, September 15,
2004 6:36 PMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject:
[WebAIM] Question regarding Canadian ODA
I sent the following
to the email provided on the ODA site and it bounced back. I'm
hoping someone here knows:

I am preparing a
course on Web accessibility and am including a section on the status of
Web accessibility in Canada. I will include the
ODA's clause:

Government internet
sites
6. The
Government of Ontario shall provide its internet sites in a format that is
accessible to persons with disabilities, unless it is not technically
feasible to do so.
I am
wondering if any guidelines or standards have been adopted that specific
how to make websites accessible, as this clause seems rather
vague. Does this clause also cover Government Intranet sites?
Thanks,
Glenda
Watson Hyatt
Soaring
Eagle Communications

From: Glenda
Date: Tue, Sep 21 2004 2:51PM
Subject: Re: Question regarding Canadian ODA
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Thanks Julian. If anyone else knows what other
provinces [besides BC and Ontario] are doing in terms of Web accessibility,
please let me know. Cheers,
Glenda

-----Original Message-----From: julian.rickards
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Tuesday, September 21,
2004 6:03 AMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: Re:
[WebAIM] Question regarding Canadian ODA
Sorry for the delay in responding: I was at the TOevolt (<A
href="http://toevolt.org">http://toevolt.org) conference this weekend and
took yesterday off.

Regarding Priority level: I know we were expected to shoot for Priority
2 but I wasn't certain if that was the standard for the Gov't. However, at the
conference, I met the person in charge of setting priority levels for the
gov't and it is 2.

Jules
-----------------------------------------------
Julian Rickards A/Digital Publications Distribution
Coordinator Publication Services
Section, Ministry of Northern
Development and Mines, Vox:
705-670-5608 / Fax: 705-670-5960

-----Original Message-----From: glenda
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004
6:54 PMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: Re: [WebAIM]
Question regarding Canadian ODA
Hi Jules,
I understand your frustration. It is as if the
governments write these policies so that they can say "look what we're doing
for people with disabilities", but then they don't implement their own
policy. Its like what is the point? From my understanding, the
BC Government is doing the same thing. We need a big legal case on Web
accessibility, not that the Human Rights Code has much bite.
Anyway, assuming the ODA is followed, do you know how "Web
accessibility" is define, ie Priority 1 and 2 or whatever??
For this course I am developing, I am looking for Canadian examples
of what IS being done, hoping to create a need to follow what others ARE
doing. May be easier said than done.
Glenda

-----Original Message-----From: julian.rickards
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Thursday, September
16, 2004 7:53 AMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject:
Re: [WebAIM] Question regarding Canadian ODA
It is my understanding that intranets are supposed to be ODA
compliant but our Management Board has not yet required
this.

Off The Record: There are projects funded by our government for web
sites developed by outside contractors. If the work was done internally,
ODA and French Language translation would be required but if the work is
for an external web site, the government department that is hiring the
contractor does not need to enforce either. This escape clause pisses me
off (sorry for the language).

As to the ODA email address, the ODA Committee web site was
developed by an outside contractor, perhaps contact
her.

Jules
-----------------------------------------------
Julian Rickards
A/Digital Publications Distribution
Coordinator Publication
Services Section, Ministry of
Northern Development and Mines, Vox: 705-670-5608 / Fax: 705-670-5960

-----Original Message-----From: glenda
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]Sent: Wednesday, September 15,
2004 6:36 PMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject:
[WebAIM] Question regarding Canadian ODA
I sent the
following to the email provided on the ODA site and it bounced
back. I'm hoping someone here knows:

I am preparing a
course on Web accessibility and am including a section on the status of
Web accessibility in Canada. I will include the
ODA's clause:

Government internet
sites
6. The
Government of Ontario shall provide its internet sites in a format that
is accessible to persons with disabilities, unless it is not technically
feasible to do so.
I am
wondering if any guidelines or standards have been adopted that specific
how to make websites accessible, as this clause seems rather
vague. Does this clause also cover Government Intranet
sites? Thanks,
Glenda Watson Hyatt
Soaring Eagle Communications