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From: Moore, Michael
Date: Fri, Sep 05 2008 1:20PM
Subject: Re: Spam?:Re: Best Practice for interaction betweenClosedCaptioning and Audio
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I would recommend just keeping it simple. Two buttons: one for captions,
the other for mute. This gives the user the greatest control and the
most options.

Mike

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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:03 PM
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Subject: Spam?:Re: [WebAIM] Best Practice for interaction
betweenClosedCaptioning and Audio

To extend what Sean said, I would think that having to press "Mute" to
activate CC would qualify as "a surprise to the user." At least I would
think most users would not expect "Mute" to mean "Turn on CC."

Cliff Tyllick
Web development coordinator
Agency Communications Division
Texas Commission on Environmental Quality
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>>> "Zdenek, Sean" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > 9/5/2008 1:53 PM >>>
Becky,

Re: #1. I'd go with the standard practice of leaving the audio rolling
even when captions are activated. Hearing/Deaf is not a binary
opposition in which people who are hearing can't benefit from captions
and people who are d/Deaf can't benefit from audio. Instead, there are a
range of subject positions with varying preferences and needs: hearing,
audiologically deaf (with varying degrees from profound to severe
hearing loss), hard-of-hearing (with varying degrees from mild to
moderate hearing loss), Culturally Deaf (i.e. but also able to pass for
hearing).

Just as we double up when color is involved (Ensure that all information
conveyed with color is also available without color -- WCAG 1.0,
Guideline 2.1 & Section 508, section 1194.22c), we should do the same
for captions (i.e. captions are available together with audio, rather
than each on its own).

Re: #2. Whatever you do, it should not be a surprise to the user (like a
pop-up window that a screen reader user doesn't know about).

Sean
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Sean Zdenek, PhD
Assistant Professor
Technical Communication & Rhetoric
Department of English
Texas Tech University
806.742.2500 x284
Office: 472 English Building
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From: ~G~
Date: Sun, Sep 07 2008 10:30PM
Subject: Re: Best Practice for interaction between Closed Captioning and Audio
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As a deaf person, I prefer seeing a closed captioning button available where
I can easily access it to turn on captioning. If just providing a mute
button to turn on captioning then very bad idea. Why would I want to 'mute'
something I can't hear!!??

Why mute audio of video if cc is turned on?

My thoughts and opinions.

M

From: Cynthia Waddell
Date: Mon, Sep 08 2008 12:30PM
Subject: Re: Best Practice for interaction between ClosedCaptioning and Audio
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I agree. I need to see a CC button to know that it can be turned on. A
mute button makes no sense.

Cynthia Waddell

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From: ~G~ [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Best Practice for interaction between ClosedCaptioning
and Audio

As a deaf person, I prefer seeing a closed captioning button available where
I can easily access it to turn on captioning. If just providing a mute
button to turn on captioning then very bad idea. Why would I want to 'mute'
something I can't hear!!??

Why mute audio of video if cc is turned on?

My thoughts and opinions.

M


From: smithj7@peoplepc.com
Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 2:00PM
Subject: Re: Best Practice for interaction between Closed Captioning and Audio
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I agree that captions are available together with audio, rather than each on
its own. Folks like my daughter that has a centeral audiotory process
disorder benefit from both not one or the other.
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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Best Practice for interaction between Closed
Captioning and Audio


> Becky,
>
> Re: #1. I'd go with the standard practice of leaving the audio rolling
> even when captions are activated. Hearing/Deaf is not a binary opposition
> in which people who are hearing can't benefit from captions and people who
> are d/Deaf can't benefit from audio. Instead, there are a range of subject
> positions with varying preferences and needs: hearing, audiologically deaf
> (with varying degrees from profound to severe hearing loss),
> hard-of-hearing (with varying degrees from mild to moderate hearing loss),
> Culturally Deaf (i.e. but also able to pass for hearing).
>
> Just as we double up when color is involved (Ensure that all information
> conveyed with color is also available without color -- WCAG 1.0, Guideline
> 2.1 & Section 508, section 1194.22c), we should do the same for captions
> (i.e. captions are available together with audio, rather than each on its
> own).
>
> Re: #2. Whatever you do, it should not be a surprise to the user (like a
> pop-up window that a screen reader user doesn't know about).
>
> Sean
> ---------------------------
> Sean Zdenek, PhD
> Assistant Professor
> Technical Communication & Rhetoric
> Department of English
> Texas Tech University
> 806.742.2500 x284
> Office: 472 English Building
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> http://cms.english.ttu.edu/zdenek
> http://seanzdenek.com
>