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From: Kevin Price
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2002 9:47AM
Subject: Creative accessible web pages
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I am looking for web pages that are creatively designed visually and also
follow accessibility guidelines (at least Priority one W3C guidelines,
following Priority 3 would be ideal). I want to show off these pages to web
designers to emphasize the point that accessibility doesn't mean
boring. It would be great if there was an awards program for the best
creative web sites that meet accessibility guidelines. Is there anything
out there?

Kevin Price
Coordinator-Assistive Computing Resource Center (ACRC)
Academic Computing and Media
California State University, San Bernardino
5500 University Parkway / PL-002
San Bernardino, CA 92407-2397
909-880-5079 FAX 909-880-7075



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From: Jon Gunderson
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2002 10:00AM
Subject: Re: Creative accessible web pages
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I think this is a good example:
http://www.odos.uiuc.edu/

Jon


At 08:47 AM 2/18/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>I am looking for web pages that are creatively designed visually and also
>follow accessibility guidelines (at least Priority one W3C guidelines,
>following Priority 3 would be ideal). I want to show off these pages to
>web designers to emphasize the point that accessibility doesn't mean
>boring. It would be great if there was an awards program for the best
>creative web sites that meet accessibility guidelines. Is there anything
>out there?
>
>Kevin Price
>Coordinator-Assistive Computing Resource Center (ACRC)
>Academic Computing and Media
>California State University, San Bernardino
>5500 University Parkway / PL-002
>San Bernardino, CA 92407-2397
>909-880-5079 FAX 909-880-7075
>
>
>
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Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
MC-574
College of Applied Life Studies
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820

Voice: (217) 244-5870
Fax: (217) 333-0248

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From: Mark Newhouse
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2002 10:03AM
Subject: Re: Creative accessible web pages
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on 2/18/02 9:47 AM, Kevin Price at = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = wrote:

> I am looking for web pages that are creatively designed visually and also
> follow accessibility guidelines (at least Priority one W3C guidelines,
> following Priority 3 would be ideal). I want to show off these pages to web
> designers to emphasize the point that accessibility doesn't mean
> boring. It would be great if there was an awards program for the best
> creative web sites that meet accessibility guidelines. Is there anything
> out there?

I put this site together for Paul's Accessibility class last summer:

http://homepage.mac.com/accessibility/big_one/

This uses an entirely CSS-based layout, and can by "skinned" with the
following:

http://homepage.mac.com/accessibility/big_one/?vanilla.css

and

http://homepage.mac.com/accessibility/big_one/?hc.css

The above all use the same HTML file, with different CSS files. They also
hold up pretty well when you increase font sizes - especially if you
increase the browser width as well.

If you follow any links, you'll be given the default look of the page.


--Mark Newhouse
We put the "blah" in blog...
<http://homepage.mac.com/iblog/>;



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From: Ineke van der Maat
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2002 10:52AM
Subject: Re: Creative accessible web pages
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Hallo Kevin,

I thought http://www.hoehnermusikfan.net is a very good example of what you are looking for..

Greetings
Ineke van der Maat

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Subject: Creative accessible web pages


> I am looking for web pages that are creatively designed visually and also
> follow accessibility guidelines (at least Priority one W3C guidelines,
> following Priority 3 would be ideal). I want to show off these pages to web
> designers to emphasize the point that accessibility doesn't mean
> boring. It would be great if there was an awards program for the best
> creative web sites that meet accessibility guidelines. Is there anything
> out there?
>
> Kevin Price
> Coordinator-Assistive Computing Resource Center (ACRC)
> Academic Computing and Media
> California State University, San Bernardino
> 5500 University Parkway / PL-002
> San Bernardino, CA 92407-2397
> 909-880-5079 FAX 909-880-7075
>
>
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From: Shawn Lawton Henry
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2002 3:00PM
Subject: RE: Creative accessible web pages
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Perhaps www.uiaccess.com (except missing a decent logo right now)...

Note that one of your biggest issues for attractive visual design and
accessibility is likely to be browser support issues. For example, Netscape
4.7 doesn't really support CSS. Of course, there are different things you
can do such as provide different style sheets for different browsers...

Good luck!

- Shawn



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>
>
> I am looking for web pages that are creatively designed
> visually and also
> follow accessibility guidelines (at least Priority one W3C
> guidelines,
> following Priority 3 would be ideal). I want to show off
> these pages to web
> designers to emphasize the point that accessibility doesn't mean
> boring. It would be great if there was an awards program for
> the best
> creative web sites that meet accessibility guidelines. Is
> there anything
> out there?
>
> Kevin Price
> Coordinator-Assistive Computing Resource Center (ACRC)
> Academic Computing and Media
> California State University, San Bernardino
> 5500 University Parkway / PL-002
> San Bernardino, CA 92407-2397
> 909-880-5079 FAX 909-880-7075
>
>
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From: John Middleton
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2002 4:42PM
Subject: Re: Creative accessible web pages
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Accessible perhaps by a few... Try increasing the font size on that
page via your browser Prefs.
Macintosh Outspoken reads from top left to right line by line. Try
deciphering meaningful content of your site/s with this in mind.

The W3C/WAI site is a better example.
<http://www.w3.org/WAI/>;http://www.w3.org/WAI/

This is where artistic impressions and accessibility collide.

Why is it that speech friendly is never mentioned?
Accessible for the latest and greatest application and OS's only.... go figure?
Where does accessible start (Windows 2000, ME, XP?) (sorry Mac, Linux, BeOS)
What about other platform and older Software (SW), and not so old SW
technologies? (eg. Current Mac Outspoken).

Many sites may pass accessibility validator's but still far from
accessible by ALL!

I may have missed the message that said PC Windows 98, JAWS 4.X was
the accessibility baseline.
I never compare I simply learn and implement to the best of my
abilities with what I have to work with. These tools mentioned here
help us discover accessibility aspects no matter what level developer
you are.
Some are just getting started while other think they're experts.

Ask your friend to close his eye's and tell you which site is boring.
You may discover your priorities need to be reconsidered. Don't take
me wrong, I'm not knocking any example, I'm wanting to learn more
from such examples and learn from them reading these messages. I'm
in the same boat, learning, implementing, and trying my best, myself.


JM



>I think this is a good example:
>http://www.odos.uiuc.edu/
>
>Jon
>
>
>At 08:47 AM 2/18/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>>I am looking for web pages that are creatively designed visually
>>and also follow accessibility guidelines (at least Priority one W3C
>>guidelines, following Priority 3 would be ideal). I want to show
>>off these pages to web designers to emphasize the point that
>>accessibility doesn't mean boring. It would be great if there was
>>an awards program for the best creative web sites that meet
>>accessibility guidelines. Is there anything out there?
>>
>>Kevin Price
>>Coordinator-Assistive Computing Resource Center (ACRC)
>>Academic Computing and Media
>>California State University, San Bernardino
>>5500 University Parkway / PL-002
>>San Bernardino, CA 92407-2397
>>909-880-5079 FAX 909-880-7075
>>
>>
>>
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>>http://www.webaim.org/discussion/
>
>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>MC-574
>College of Applied Life Studies
>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
>1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820
>
>Voice: (217) 244-5870
>Fax: (217) 333-0248
>
>E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
>WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
>WWW: http://www.w3.org/wai/ua
>
>