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From: Angela Colter
Date: Thu, Mar 25 2010 5:18AM
Subject: Is this a keyboard trap?
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Hi folks,
I've come across a behavior on a web page I don't think I've encountered
before. I'm hoping someone on the list can help me understand what's going
on.
On https://personal.vanguard.com/us/home?fromPage=portal I can tab to all
the linked text and form elements when I'm using Firefox. I can't
*trigger*any of the text links, but I can tab to them. I think that's
because of the
anchor tags having "onclick" attributes without a corresponding "onkeypress"
attribute.
But here's the weird thing: When I use IE 7, after I reach the first text
link ("Forgot user name or password") I can't tab to ANY of the other links
on the page. The next item to receive focus is the browser's address bar,
followed by browser tabs and so forth. And the focus never goes back to the
elements in the web page.
So here's my question: any idea what's causing this?
Thanks for the help and any advice you care to bestow.
Angela
--
Angela Colter
Usability Consultant
Web: http://www.angelacolter.com
Twitter: @angelacolter
From: J. B-Vincent
Date: Thu, Mar 25 2010 6:36AM
Subject: Re: Is this a keyboard trap?
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Angela: Are you running a screen reader, or just using Windows keyboard commands?
--Jane Vincent, Center for Accessible Technology
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Angela Colter < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
From: Angela Colter < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] Is this a keyboard trap?
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 3:19 AM
Hi folks,
I've come across a behavior on a web page I don't think I've encountered
before. I'm hoping someone on the list can help me understand what's going
on.
On https://personal.vanguard.com/us/home?fromPage=portal I can tab to all
the linked text and form elements when I'm using Firefox. I can't
*trigger*any of the text links, but I can tab to them. I think that's
because of the
anchor tags having "onclick" attributes without a corresponding "onkeypress"
attribute.
But here's the weird thing: When I use IE 7, after I reach the first text
link ("Forgot user name or password") I can't tab to ANY of the other links
on the page. The next item to receive focus is the browser's address bar,
followed by browser tabs and so forth. And the focus never goes back to the
elements in the web page.
So here's my question: any idea what's causing this?
Thanks for the help and any advice you care to bestow.
Angela
--
Angela Colter
Usability Consultant
Web: http://www.angelacolter.com
Twitter: @angelacolter
From: Angela Colter
Date: Thu, Mar 25 2010 8:15AM
Subject: Re: Is this a keyboard trap?
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I'm using keyboard commands: Firefox on the Mac, IE 7 on PC.
Interestingly, I can trigger all the links in Lynxlet, the text
browser for Mac.
Angela
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:37 AM, "J. B-Vincent" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Angela: Are you running a screen reader, or just using Windows
> keyboard commands?
>
> --Jane Vincent, Center for Accessible Technology
>
> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Angela Colter < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> From: Angela Colter < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Is this a keyboard trap?
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 3:19 AM
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've come across a behavior on a web page I don't think I've
> encountered
> before. I'm hoping someone on the list can help me understand what's
> going
> on.
>
> On https://personal.vanguard.com/us/home?fromPage=portal I can tab
> to all
> the linked text and form elements when I'm using Firefox. I can't
> *trigger*any of the text links, but I can tab to them. I think that's
> because of the
> anchor tags having "onclick" attributes without a corresponding
> "onkeypress"
> attribute.
>
> But here's the weird thing: When I use IE 7, after I reach the first
> text
> link ("Forgot user name or password") I can't tab to ANY of the
> other links
> on the page. The next item to receive focus is the browser's address
> bar,
> followed by browser tabs and so forth. And the focus never goes back
> to the
> elements in the web page.
>
> So here's my question: any idea what's causing this?
>
> Thanks for the help and any advice you care to bestow.
>
> Angela
>
> --
> Angela Colter
> Usability Consultant
>
> Web: http://www.angelacolter.com
> Twitter: @angelacolter
>
From: Steve Green
Date: Thu, Mar 25 2010 11:36AM
Subject: Re: Is this a keyboard trap?
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Internet Explorer 8 does the same. The source code is horrendous - I've
never seen so much JavaScript. That's the root of the problem.
I have no idea why they coded it that way - there doesn't appear to be any
reason to have done so.
They may have used some evil authoring tool to perpetrate this website. I
can't think of any other reason why there would be 173 blank lines before
the doctype. That doesn't cause any problems, but it makes you suspect that
a human being has never looked at the code.
Steve Green
Director
Test Partners Ltd
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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela Colter
Sent: 25 March 2010 13:16
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Is this a keyboard trap?
I'm using keyboard commands: Firefox on the Mac, IE 7 on PC.
Interestingly, I can trigger all the links in Lynxlet, the text browser for
Mac.
Angela
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:37 AM, "J. B-Vincent" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Angela: Are you running a screen reader, or just using Windows
> keyboard commands?
>
> --Jane Vincent, Center for Accessible Technology
>
> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Angela Colter < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> From: Angela Colter < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Is this a keyboard trap?
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 3:19 AM
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've come across a behavior on a web page I don't think I've
> encountered before. I'm hoping someone on the list can help me
> understand what's going on.
>
> On https://personal.vanguard.com/us/home?fromPage=portal I can tab to
> all the linked text and form elements when I'm using Firefox. I can't
> *trigger*any of the text links, but I can tab to them. I think that's
> because of the anchor tags having "onclick" attributes without a
> corresponding "onkeypress"
> attribute.
>
> But here's the weird thing: When I use IE 7, after I reach the first
> text link ("Forgot user name or password") I can't tab to ANY of the
> other links on the page. The next item to receive focus is the
> browser's address bar, followed by browser tabs and so forth. And the
> focus never goes back to the elements in the web page.
>
> So here's my question: any idea what's causing this?
>
> Thanks for the help and any advice you care to bestow.
>
> Angela
>
> --
> Angela Colter
> Usability Consultant
>
> Web: http://www.angelacolter.com
> Twitter: @angelacolter
>