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From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Tue, May 29 2012 2:21PM
Subject: [NVDA] #2390: NVDA doesn't handle role=dialog with supporting ARIA attributes according to spec
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That's what I thought as well.
However it appears that the same behavior is being linked to role=dialog as
well, even though they are different widget types.
This from the response at http://www.nvda-project.org/ticket/2390
"It's not clear from the spec as to how description should be handled for
dialog, but it does refer to alertdialog as being related. Also, dialogs do
typically have a caption/description."
If you would care to add your thoughts to the bug, I would appreciate it.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] #2390: NVDA doesn't handle role=dialog with supporting
ARIA attributes according to spec
> On May 29, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Bryan Garaventa
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>
>> I'm forwarding this in case any of you want to chime in. This is
>> regarding the bug at
>> http://www.nvda-project.org/ticket/2390#comment:6
>>
>> According to NVDA, widget control types such as role=dialog require not
>> just an aria-label or aria-labelledby attribute, but also an
>> aria-describedby attribute. I'm not able to locate where this exists in
>> the user agent spec however, at http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles
>
>
> Perhaps you are thinking of alertdialog, not dialog?
>
>>From #alertdialog http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#alertdialog :
>>"Authors SHOULD use aria-describedby on an alertdialog to point to the
>>alert message element in the dialog. If they do not, assistive
>>technologies will resort to their internal recovery mechanism to determine
>>the contents of an alert message."
>
> In plain English, this means that if the author doesn't explicitly define
> what the alert message is, the AT can and should do the best job it can to
> tell the user to what it *thinks* is the alert message.
>
> There is no requirement for an aria-describedby relationship on dialog.
> There is an author "SHOULD" requirement for a label, but not a
> description.
> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#dialog
>
> In both cases, the author "SHOULD" requirement would generate a warning,
> not an error, so AT should account for dialogs without labels or
> descriptions as well.
>
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